but i'm really curious about this moment in terms of bobby engle. i want to remind the audience, do you remember this moment when cassidy hutchinson testified? it was that moment everyone was talking about about whether trump reach for a steering wheel in anger about not being able to go down to the capital. here is that moment, remember? >> the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab towards the steering wheel. mr. engel grabbed his arm, said sir you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we are going back to the west wing, we are not going to the capital. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle, and when mr. renata had recounted the story to me he motioned towards his clavicle. >> so elliott, this is still ongoing, this january six committee. with testimonies that say -- i wonder what you make of the potential, if bobby engle corroborates what she said, which was challenged if you are at the time, what impact do you think this would have on the investigation and obviously the forthcoming report?

trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle and, this was recounted the story towardse had motioned towards his clavicle 's. >> cassidy hutchinson the former white house aide, testified in june as she was told the trump lunged at the steering wheel bobby engle told the president they were not going to the capital. cnn was the first report this in an nbc news has confirmed this. agent angles sat with the for an interview of the january 6th committee today. he'd spoken to the committee previously but that was before cassidy hutchinson's testimony. today is the first day that agent angles has spoken to the committee since her bombshell testimony. cassidy hutchinson at promissory testified that tony ornato and told her what happened in the suv with angle present and angle did not dispute the account at the time. this means that the january 6th panel presumably today got one step closer to what happened that day. and that matters because it speaks to former president trump's state of mind that day. we'll be right back. ♪♪ family is just very important. she's my sister and w

trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle, and mr.cle. >> washington post, where the first to report the, story said the committee repeatedly on monday asked guglielmi to walk through how he chose to describe tony ornato and bobby angles accounts of events on january 6th 2021, and the agency's rebuttal, of hutchinson's account of the story provided by renato, about trump's behavior in the heavily fortified suv. joining me now is oh lofgren, she's chair of the committee on house administration, and she's a member of the january six committee, thank you very much for joining us tonight. what can you confirm for us about this testimony, and the washington post reporting that the committee reviewed closely how the secret service made public comments about cassidy hutchinson's testimony. >> well let me just say, generally, we can't discuss under our rules, the details of the testimony. but let me just say generally, that a lot of what has been publicly said, by the agency, doesn't square with the documents we've received. in testimony, and

trump used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle. >> cnn's sara murray join the us now, sara, whatmy colleagues zach cohen confirming that the committee is speaking with richard engel today. they had spoken to him before. before we got this bombshell from cassidy hutchinson that you're just playing. he knows there are huge allegations that we've heard from cassidy hutchinson and what we've seen over the last month or so, the committee diving into the allegations surrounding the secret service. what agents may have seen. you know, we know they've interviewed a number of individuals from the u.s. secret service and they're trying to wrap up that part of their investigation, while they wrap up their investigation more broadly ahead of congress in january. >> the one is pushing back at former vice president mike pence doubled down and said he's not going to offer any testimony to the committee. what's the latest there? >> well, there's a lot of playing out between the committee and mike pence, you know, the possibility, discussions behind the scenes, would they call on mike pence to te

we have reported, i think just last week, they had just brought in bobby engle, one of the key secretvice agents that can speak to what happened on january 6, what the former president was doing, make potentially corroborating some of the things that cassidy hutchinson said in her explosive testimony. all of those pieces are still actively coming together. the question that you and i have talked about before, chris, but that i regularly ask members on the committee is, at what point do you stop actively fact finding and just accept at this point you know what you know, you have a strong narrative here that you have bolstered with a lot of evidence and you can release that to the public and show a good public accounting of what happened on january 6? there's a lot of threads that are still kind of hanging out there unresolved. i know pence was asked to appear. he says he is closing the door on that. it's a lot harder to close the door on the department of justice than it is on a congressional committee. it's entirely possible that his openness there ends up yielding to something that h

trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle and when mr.ds his clavicles. >> you may remember there was record of impugning that. now many arenado going into the committee can add his view, and we can all learn about it. if he says under oath something different, we'll report that. indeed, all of this is leading up to what will be a final report by the committee, which could come out, well, in december. it's got to come out before they finish and hand over the congress in january. we will be tracking that, reporting it for you, and i want to let you know i'm whiting a forward to the harper collins edition of the full report. you can preorder that. if you search melber jan 6th. it will be free online for those who want to read the government version free of charge. let me tell you what's coming up. i told you this is a special show. we are going to be joined by one of the most iconic, fun, and weird actors on the planet. jeff goldblum making his debut as part of our maverick series covering lots of ground, including life itself. >> life will

bobby engel and mr. ornato recounted the story to me he motioned towards his clavicles. >> did mr. engle or mr. ornato tell you after that what he says was untrue? >> neither told me ever it was untrue. >> you heard cassty hutchinson saying these officials never walked back their story, and we should note engle and ornato have never gone on the record to dispute what cassidy humpensen had said. granted uner anonymity ornato denying essentially that he told cassidy hutchinson that the former president reacted this way. why it's so important for the committee to get this testimony. they want to set the record straight. try to confirm what cassidy hutchinson told them or if tony ornato is in fact going to dispute part of hutchinson testimony they want that on the record and get it under oath. >> just a few weeks to do it. sara murray, thank you. >>> so a new study shows the gun epidemic in america is getting deadlier and hitting some communities harder an others. we're tell you which ones. >>> and criticizing former president trump for dining with fuentntes and comments from his formrmer vice pres

engle. just ahead, investors continue to pull funds and certainly confidence is wanting out of digital asset exchanges despite getting reassurances that things are stable. ballet crypto founder bobby will be joining us in a couple minutes. this is bloomberg. ♪ david: hold on for dear life. right? hofdl. i'm going to read a tweet from bobby lee. the ftx failure is just the tip of the iceberg in this bear market. dominoes will continue to keep falling. this is only the beginning of the crypto winter. old on for dear life. stay warm. rishaad: not exactly encouraging, bobby. david: how bad is it going to be? how much declines do you still see? let's talk about bitcoin. bobby: you ask about the price. i think it has crashed to below $16,000. previously i have said it would probably go to $15,000. given the magnitude of the ftx blowup it could go down to $13,000 or even touched $10,000, but that will be a very drastic crash and they'll have to be more bad news to come out. in the last week or so we are looking at the troubles of genesis, one of the prime brokers in the crypto market. so if something bad happens with that were with the u.s. dt stable coin, then we could see much worse pr