joining me now to discuss, bobby franklin, the ceo of the group leading the suit, and eric hippeau, fromerer hippeau. alex, i will start with you. what do you make of this? alex: it is an interesting lawsuit that will prove a test case. it is not the only role the obama era rule the trump administration has thought to delay and eventually get rid of. the suit challenges whether the obama -- the trump administration can do this without opening up a comment period first. it is a weird rule they are trying to resend. it would seem they would normally fit into the category of immigrants the president would like to see more of in the for a states, advocating merit-based immigration system. but what is happening is twofold. one, trump has tried to establish his legacy as erasing obama's legacy, including every role obama issued, late in his presidency. two, there are serious immigration restrictionists who believe there should be lower immigration, overall. by repealing this rule, those folks are probably trying to achieve their goals. emily: bobby, why file this suit? what you hope to accompl