and there's now promising to join the global kovak vaccine sharing scheme. bobby john nichols is a clinical professor and pathology at the university of hong kong. he's also been leading research during the corona virus outbreak. he joins us now from hong kong. thanks for your time. if we look at se, asia, what beyond the delta variant is causing this rise in cases that we seem to be seeing pretty much across the board? yeah, well you see what we're saying now is that when this kind of stuff last year, number 9, the store that this is just a medical problem, but increasingly it's medical, economic and ethical. so what we're seeing is that because the place and nations did relatively well in 2020 those, this big sense of complacency. and so people let them that god. and so, you know, what you're mentioning just a few minutes ago is basically india 4 months ago. we're seeing black box to and load test levels. the low vaccination rates, you know, 6 percent operations in fascination. they hadn't used, it seems, it's been the political leaders to slowly resistance locked down mass gathering. so