lyndon johnson did that, the kennedy administration, believe me, bobby kennedy was not above doing that kind of thing. so it's shady, it's reprehensible, but it wasn't unique. >> first of all, i'd like to thank you for authoring what i consider to be one of the fairest books about president nixon that's ever been written. my question is about the rapprochement with china. i haven't read the book yet, i'll admit that. the review in the "wall street journal" said you tended to minimize the reproachment. my understanding is the reproachment was conducted in order to put the kibosh on world communism, which it did, because of the chinese -- because of the red sow yets' fear -- soviets' fear that the chinese could open up fronts every 500 miles on that 3,000-mile front that the two countries share. i'd like for you to comment on your views on the -- >> yeah. >> -- nixon doctrine and the effect that the reproach had worldwide. >> yeah. nixon did this all under the radar for a long time. he went to europe in the early '60s, and conrad add power -- adnauer and de gaulle said you ought to go to

bobby kennedy had nixon audited three times. nixon thought the kennedy's were better at dirty tricks. he wasn't totally wrong about that. the kennedy's were good at dirty tricks but nixon exaggerated and made it worse than it was. the other cool kid that drove nixon nuts were the so-called georgetown group. my old employer ms. graham and back in the day they really did have powers. those dinner parties, the heads of the cia and the state department would get together and in 1950 after nixon won his u.s. senate race, joe also invited nixon to dinner. they kind of check him out to see who this new guy was. they also introduced nixon as russell nixon. and ambassador saw nixon and turned his plate over saying i will not break bread with this man and walked out. you can imagine how mr. and mrs. nixon, richard and pat nixon, felt. this awkward couple coming to be treated like this. it just left a bad taste he never lost. it got worse after being elected president. nixon sent kissenger to be the ambassador and he did great with the crow

bobby kennedy had nixon audited three times by the irs. nixon thought the kennedys were better at dirty tricks. he wasn't at high-growth about that. i wrote a biography of bobby kennedy. but, of course, nixon's exaggerated and in his own mind made it worse than it actually was. the other cool kids so to speak federal nixon that's what the georgetown set. my old employer mrs. graham, dennis back in the day to but didn't have some power. those dinner parties with the head of the cia and the state department would get together. in 1950 after nixon won his u.s. senate race they invited nixon to dinner to kind of check it out to see who was this new guy. of course, they introduce nixon as russell nixon, and averell harriman, ambassador harriman sought nixon entered his plea over and said i will not break bread with this man, and walked out. you can imagine how mr. and mrs. nixon, richard and pat nixon felt, is awkward, shy couple coming to these sophisticated people and to be treated like that. it just left a bad taste that he never lost. it got

they are always complaining about something so i told them about the bobby kennedy incident and they stared at me and he said told him to get his butt out of my office and this never took place. so i went back to the battalion battalion headquarters and i thought to myself i'm going to get a really bad report outside of the chain of command. he didn't and went to the office clerks about two days later with a smile on his face and asked him what was going on they transferred the headquarters company. he thought he had a nice job in the tour and they beat the crap out of him. he was carrying a flashlight and they they did the staff offices for four or five nights until his face healed but he got the message. we never found out who the culprits were and we didn't find out if they came from the headquarters company or my company. >> is this an unusual incident to have a commander that didn't garner respect and was beaten by the troops? >> i've never been placed into such a moral dilemma. there was a time when the editor first asked what you care to write what you went through in vietnam

bobby kennedy was out in front of it, leading the charge. second generation of kennedys are out there with it, as well. i have a sense that this is not so much an ideological phenomenon but a dynastic phenomenon, that it's in a sense the elevation of a family, a dynasty into politics, and it's an adaptation of the family to .he changing currents in that sort of situation, you might have style as a defining element as opposed to ideology, but it is a thought that i've not explored very much. i think it is a dynastic phenomenon. it's going to be hard, i suspect, for future generations or the current generation of students to understand the charm and appeal john kennedy had. jim mentioned that his job performance rating was around 60% when he died. if you desegregate the results, what you find is that his job rating was 70% throughout almost all of his presidency. in june of 1963 when he endorses the civil rights bill, it goes down to 30% in the south. it stays at 70% everywhere else. he would've been reelected by as wide of a margin as johnson

it was originally bobby kennedy who was the attorney general who offered to thurgood the seat on the southern district court of new york, which is the premier trial court in this country, handling lots of commercial matters. it was the largest of the .istrict courts and for good said no, that will not work. i will argue with everybody and be too angry. i need a job on an appellate bench. said then nothing. he said, i grew up with nothing. that is fine by me. he was playing poker with the kennedys. they had to appoint somebody and it had to be mr. thurgood marshall, mr. civil rights. secondappointed to the circuit court of appeals. over time, he got good at his job. he was not the best, but he got .ood at it then one day you get a call from the president of the united states. someone comes in and says, judge, judge, there is a call from the president. president of who, of what? no, the president of the united states. judge thurgood marshall on the line. when you hold? >> yes. hello? >> judge, how are you? >> fine. >> i have a big problem i want to talk to you about. you to give it som

i said no and i gave them a few instances and i told him about the bobby kennedy incident and he just stared at me, and then he said frank get your educated but out of my office this never took place. and i drove back to headquarters i thought to myself i just may be really screwed myself now. i'm going to get a bad report and i went outside the chain of command, something's going to happen. i think the major might say something to my commanding officer, my battalion commander. he didn't. iran into the office clerk about two days later and he had a big smile on his space and i said what is going on? he said the captain is getting transferred to headquarters company. so they really took him off the load, and he thought he really had a nice desk job and right off the rest of his tour but one night the troops caught him in a four holder and they had a blanket party form and beat the crap out of them. he was carrying an omelette flashlight they took that away from him and used as a black bat. he didn't go into staff offices for about four to five nights until a space healed. but he deftly

because bobby kennedy had run and won as the senator of new york. so he is the person really getting this legislation to go through. catsen back is a fascinating person. he is a world war ii hero, prisoner of war of world war ii. he is an anchor. somebody who is forgotten in the mainstream understandings. >> you clearly get the sense they had a specific mind on how they wanted things to address. would that be a fair assessment? >> absolutely. what catsen back does is gets back to really start drafting this legislation. starts putting together his testimony that he is going to put before committees. johnson is a details guy. catsen back is putting together the details to make sure the is will be dotted and the ts crossed. >>> would you agree the president clearly had a mind how he wanted this to progress even from day one? >> there's no question about it. remember, he looked at the senate. the problem was the filibuster. he knew that he had to get -- in those days it was two-thirds of the senate. so it was 67 votes. he had to get 67 votes to break wh

barely a year after the death of bobby kennedy, teddy drove off a bridge on chappaquiddick island killing his 28-year old passenger, mary jo kopechne. "david, the kennedy family reaction to crisis in the past has always been remarkable. how has the family reacted this one? have they been involved in this talk tonight?" "well harry, they always draw together in any crisis and i think that they've done this again. i think the striking difference here is that in the past their tragedies and their griefs have been things that they've always been willing to share, openly with the public but in this instance they haven't done that." ted kennedy would survive the ordeal relatively unscathed not only physically but politically as well. though the curse so callously attached to the kennedy name would endure into the next generation. "good evening. once again, the kennedy family is stealing itself tonight to deal with tragedy. after take-off last night from new jersey, a small plane carrying thirty- eight year old john f. kennedy junior, his wife and sister-in-law vanished on approach to the massac

>> in the 1965 by kennedy support by bobby kennedy and dean and "the washington post" and all of them swore up and down this -- this immigration law will not change the basic demographics of america the same countries that have traditionally populated america will helicopter to pop late it. demographics will not change. that turned out to be a massive, enormous lie but now if anyone calls them on it, it is racist. >> clearly dem grarchg has changed but not that much. >> yes, that much. from the beginning eve america until 1970 country was always about 80 to 90% white 10 to 20% black that's what america was. and -- >> you want to keep it that way? >> that is what they say now. american people should have been asked about it but no lied to and a if you say hey, you guys lied to us that's the answer, you're racist. clearly what is happening is america is being transformed into latin america particularly mexico more than a third of all legal immigrants are from mexico. at least 60s, 70% of illegal immigrants are from mexico. can you ask the american people -- would you refer to livering i

. >> you know, that is an amazing appeal of compassion that reminds me of bobby kennedy, part irish cop and guy that talked like that and cared like that. will that work in the republican party today when there is so much anger and bitterness? >> absolutely. the power of the answer and many of john kasich's answers tonight is that it was the truth. he just talked about what he had done as a congressman, what he had done in ohio and drives and motivates him and his vision and when you talk about those things, passionately and from experience, leadership qualities come through. i mean, they see that you're poised and presidential so you don't have to say i'm a leader or presidential. it comes through in the passion and the clarity with which we answer questions and that's why john kasich did so well tonight. >> is the there a cloth coat republican party? >> that's like two generations ago. i'm not sure what that means. >> it means is guys -- >> there is republican party. >> republicans, regan democrats that want someone who has experience that's tough that's honest that will tell somebody

it has a bit of bobby kennedy but tough about physical stuff.e poor or near poor and want health care. he says are you going to deny them health care? i wonder if there's an audience for that kind of compassion. >> i think there is. he's talking about lifting everybody up. the republican party has to be a party that's policies can lift everyone up. john kasich has given voice to it. >> back to the debate. >> chris matthews is going back to watching the debate. the commercial is over at fox news. we're joined by richard wolf. chuck todd, jeb bush just had a moment that might be his best moment of the night. >> it was one we knew was coming. he was asked directly about his tough criticism of donald trump including the news earlier today that the fundraiser he used colorful language. >> there was a leak about using words e we can't use on air. which i think almost everyone i know has used to describe donald trump at some point. >> it's one of those you're like, well, knowing jeb bush bush denied using some of the colorful language but stood by the

he was the acting attorney general as bobby kennedy had run in one as the senator from new york. he was the person really getting this legislation to go through. he is a fascinating person. world war ii hero, prisoner of war in world war ii. he is an anchor and someone who is often forgotten in the main stream understanding of the civil rights movement. host: lbj had a clear idea of how he wanted to develop the plan other than having others develop it. is that a fair assessment? professor germany: absolutely. he puts together the testimony is going to put before committee. johnson is a details guy, and katzenbach is going to make sure that the eyes are dotted -- i's ae dotted and t's are crossed. mr. califano: he looked at the senate the problem was the filibuster. in those days, he was two thirds of the senate, so 67 votes. he had to get 67 votes to break what would be a southern filibuster, and a long southern filibuster. so, he knew who's going to have to work with everett dirksen. but still he wanted to have a real sense of the bill. he wanted to know what all of the traps we

best the same age as bobby kennedy. we lost him back in '68. of those things i like to put in perspective. check the date of birth and see how some people live long lives. and others don't get break. >> what i think was so remarkable about what did he today. there is a tradition of protecting the integrity of the presidency by shielding the privacy of former presidents, current presidents in these difficult moments. fdr wouldn't be photographed in a wheelchair. and i think carter showed that you can expose weakness, former presidents, current presidents can expose weaknesses, talk about the most difficult moments of their lives and still frequent dignity of the office. >> would jack kennedy have been admitted if he had addison's disease? would he have been elected? >> i don't know. >> i don't know how you talk with your brain, you're saying the brain has cancer. it is so personal. it is almost frightening. >> this guy is someone who explained to america in very easy to use terms for his entire life what was going on in front of them. he did it

slide in the polls and biden's perspective run and bernie sander's rise, could be revisited at bobby kennedy revisited his decision. >> yes, he did. thank you for joining us. >>> coming up next right here on "hannity" -- >> you see my statements. i do very well i don't mind paying some taxes. the middle class is getting clobbered in this country. the middle class built this country, not the hedge fund guys. >> you can read his lips coming up. and then later tonight -- >> i strongly believe we've got to have common sense reforms to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals. >> not about the guns, it's about mental instability. you have people with great mental instability. >> mental instability. 2016 candidates weighing in on gun control in the wake of the gun control in the wake of the horriblebefore i had the shooti burning, pins-and-needles of diabetic nerve pain, these feet... ...served my country... ...carried the weight of a family... ...and walked a daughter down the aisle. but i couldn't bear my diabetic nerve pain any longer. so i talked to my doctor and he prescribed lyrica. nerve

and in 1968, the same year as bobby kennedy's assassination, martin luther king's assassination, the riots. his career really extended into black power, where mainstream media would show these images of black panthers and oakland or stokely carmichael giving speeches throughout the united states. involved asally that movement evolved. i want to end with a question i have been asked by frequently, when i have that appearances, lectures, and things like that. the question i am always asked think aboutd ashe all the recent acts of disobedience on the courts and fields of american sports. what do you think of these athletes taking a stand on the recent events in ferguson, baltimore, cleveland, and other places. what would he make of that? this isalways respond -- a very difficult question to answer. i'm not arthur ashe. wasow more or less what he thinking at certain times during his career, but he died in 1993, and his views would have likely evolved since 1993. in late 1960's, he isked and have r .rrest at protest he would have appreciated athletes, or anybody for that taking a stand, r

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it has a bit of bobby kennedy but tough about physical stuff.y are poor or near poor and want health care. he says are you going to deny them health care? i wonder if there's an audience for that kind of compassion. >> i think there is. he's talking about lifting everybody up. the republican party has to be a party that's policies can lift everyone up. john kasich has given voice to it. >> back to the debate. >> chris matthews is going back to watching the debate. the commercial is over at fox news. we're joined by richard wolf. chuck todd jeb bush just had a moment that might be his best moment of the night. >> it was one we knew was coming. he was asked directly about his tough criticism of donald trump including the news earlier today that the fundraiser he used colorful language. >> there was a leak about using words e we can't use on air. which i think almost everyone i know has used to describe donald trump at some point. >> it's one of those you're like, well knowing jeb bush bush denied using some of the colorful language but stood by th

slide in the polls and biden's perspective run and bernie sander's rise, could be revisited at bobby kennedy revisited his decision. >> yes, he did. thank you for joining us. >>> coming up next right here on "hannity" -- >> you see my statements. i do very well i don't mind paying some taxes. the middle class is getting clobbered in this country. the middle class built this country, not the hedge fund guys. >> you can read his lips coming up. and then later tonight -- >> i strongly believe we've got to have common sense reforms to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals. >> not about the guns, it's about mental instability. you have people with great mental instability. >> mental instability. 2016 candidates weighing in on gun control in the wake of the horrible shootings of the two journalists earlier this week. we'll tell you what they're saying exactly. stay with us for that. why are all these people so asleep, yet i'm so awake? did you know your brain has two systems? one helps keep you awake- the other helps you sleep. science suggests when you have insomnia, the wake system in your

against lbj, everybody said he had no chance, he almost upended him in new hampshire, brought bobby kennedy into the race by the end of march lbj was out. so yes, i think he could really cause problems for her. >> and my observation, given what's going on and the unsettled nature of this if i'm joe biden and i'm in wilmington man, i'm really giving this a lot of thought. >> right. >> we thank you. two pros. i appreciate your being here. >> thanks michael. >> thanks. >>> when we come back cecil the lion zimbabwe wants the dentist who killed him back to stand trial. can he be extradited? >>> american investigators head to france to help study that mh-370 plane part that washed ashore. i'll talk to the best person i know about what they hope to learn. >>> plus that horrible cincinnati shooting video. what happens when you slow down the tape? you might be very surprised. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i don't want to live with the uncertainties of hep c. or wonder... ...whether i should seek treatment. i am ready. because today there's harvoni. a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c

came of age sort of -- his coming out party as an activist and emerged in 1968, the same year as bobby kennedy's assassination, the same year as king's assassination, the riots in chicago, and his career really extended into the black power era, where mainstream media would show these images of black panthers in oakland or carmichael giving speeches throughout the united states, and his views evolved as a movement evolved, so i want to end with a question i have been asked quite frequently when i have done appearances, lectures, podcasts, radio, and things like that, and the question i am always asked is what would ashe think about all the recent acts of disobedience on the courts and on the field of american sport? what would he think of all of these athletes taking a stand with all of the events in ferguson and baltimore and cleveland and other places? what would he sort of make of that? and what i always respond with is that is a very difficult question to answer, a, because i am not arthur ashe. i know more or less kind of what he was thinking at certain times throughout his career, but he d

ago and that film was restored and rory kennedy, who is a filmmaker, the daughter of ethel and bobby kennedy she's making a film about the last days of vietnam and a lot of kirk will be in that. it will be on american experience this coming year. and the crew member, dan lucero who lives in north carolina, they wanted that film in a desperate way. they flew him to california with his film and they restored it and they're going to use motion picture film of the kirk during the rescue. it's not a lot of film and it's a little flickering in places but it's the only combat footage that was taken aboard the kirk. the stuff you have seen in films and documentaries, there were nbc and cbs and abc photographers aboard the larger ships, the aircraft carriers. there wasn't anything like that, there was no photographic or journalistic support on the kirk. but these guys who had cameras, and there were three or four of them, and you will see in the book there are those photographs, they have the slides in their attic, and these guys were good. they were amateurs because they didn't get paid to take pict

curtis lemay, the air force chief of staff, tells chuck yegor that bobby kennedy wanted an african-american candidate. he was given this by the general -- attorney general. ed1962, a black candidate, dwight, an air force officer, starts the full training for consideration into the astronaut corps. in the black press, he is front page. his picture is everywhere, headlines everywhere. natural thebit of a mercury seven -- every bit of an astronaut that the mercury seven was. it was unusual for a white paper in the south to say anything of an african-american, but he was a rock star. he was going to be the first african-american astronaut and that he was not. it is never quite sure what happened. he finished the training program and was nominated to nasa, but so were 130 other people. than 20k, i think, less out of that 130. he was not one of them. int led to some controversy magazines, some investigations, calls for investigations. no one is quite sure exactly how it ended up. there are lots of different stories. dwight has a versio of how things wentn. there's pieces of the official version.

it's when johnson stepped down, bobby kennedy and dr. king was killed, we we had the rights in chicago. it led to the election of richard nixon and then his reelection by a landslide proportions. richard nixon was always his own worst enemy and it became the greatest political scandal in u.s. history in which he was forced to reside. so i couldn't say one or the other was more important, they were part of a piece and i was again looking to be in the middle both of those as a journalist. speed. host: you also look at 1989 and this is the year you're the only network newscaster who was at the berlin wall. and it all began with a tip from a friend in it? guest: it did but we didn't think the wall was going to come down. without a lot was happening in the east and there's not much going on here so let's go there. my motto as a journalist has always been it's never a mistake to go. just get on the airplane ago, something will happen. [laughter] so i didn't think i would base daddy there when the berlin came down but it came down the second da

kennedy: real or fake. tanned, ref rested, ready. >> tanned, rested, ready? >> real or fake. >> that is donald trump, fake. >> that is real, that is bobby jindal. >> i am tanneded and rea ready. kennedy: will you be ready? >> real. >> i am ready. >> real. >> real. >> will you be ready? >> real. >> cialis. >> cialis? >> will you be ready? >> like viagra, all right. snoo? from hope to higher ground. >> real or fake. >> mike huckabee. >> from hope to higher ground. >> oh, that is horrible. kennedy: there is no substitute? >> real. >> that is porsche, not a presidential campaign. >> there is no substitute. >> impossible is nothing. >> that is adidas. >> be all you can be? >> you can be. >> fake. >> that is fake, the army. >> be all that you can be. >> make america great again. >> real. >> that is real, donald trump. >> let's make america great again. >> a political revolution is coming. >> real. >> fake. >> real, that is bernie sanders. >> we begin a political revolution. >> because you are worth it. >> fake. >> that is fake, that is l'ore l'oreal. >> you're worth it. >> heal, inspire, revive. >> real. >> who is it? >> who is it. >> ben carson. >> heal, inspire,

bobby kennedy said to jack kennedy, kick him in the balls. that just gets the guy out to the fight. right way? go out there with everything you've got and say take it easy, protect yourself. what do you say? >> we don't talk like that anymore. >> donald trump is donald trump. it's his authenticity that is fueling his rise in the polls. if we see donald trump come out like he's on a tranquilizer, it will hurt donald trump's image. i think donald trump operates at one speed. he's going to come out and be donald trump, and we'll see tonight what the appetite is for substantive answers versus the showmanship that we've seen out of donald trump. certainly if he says things like, look, i'm going to build a big wall, it will be a great wall, i will make the mexicans pay for it and none of the others confront on it, he will diminish them spectacularly. if you're not tough enough to stand up to donald trump, how do you stand up to vladimir putin? >> great point. >> they will have a tough time navigating this. >> the point is donald trump is in first place, right? he has double the support of

bobby kennedy enters, then he was killed and hubert humphrey. donald trump's got the party in a wedge because if he does not get the nomination, he very well might run a third party and get 15% of the american voters and destroy today's republican party. trump is not going away. >> is trump ross perot of 2016? >> there's a lot of perot but perot was folksy. trump is a walking casino, flashiflash ing lights wherever he goes. what is similar is the ability to say, i'm not a puppet. i have my own money. i'm not a beggar. i don't have to go asking. i don't owe anybody anything. i think ross perot did not run a sophisticated campaign. if you recall, chris, he entered the race, pulled out, got back in. thus far, trump isn't making lot of mistakes. i thought, personally, he made a lot of mistakes out of the gate with kelly and john mccain. i was proven wrong. he's riding tidal wave of sentiment right now. >> from the impact of negativity to a true need for perspective on a positive, president carter, he is fighting a fight that is as dire as was first

i talked about this before a couple weeks ago about what i'm sure you heard, too, bobby kennedy's familypport after his death in june of '68, a lot of it went over to george wallace. donald trump, i think it proves what i've always believed. americans just aren't that ideological. i don't think donald trump is about ideology. i think it's all protest against -- >> i think it's really a deep patriotism. you meet a lot of west virginia guys, a lot of country guys. he took me under his wing this fellow, leroy taylor. he said -- i'm a college kid. he called me aside. chris, you know why the little man loves this country? because that's all he's got. and the regular guy out there who didn't have a college and a big fancy family doesn't have a fancy home or vacation home or anything really. all he has is his flag. he feels he's been betrayed. he feels nobody is looking out for the border. nobody is looking out for the debt and his jobs. we're selling them off to foreign countries. we're not looking out for who even comes into his -- people walk into the country, you don't even have to be an am

didn't run, and that's what brought in bobby kennedy.in these early stages, is that going to bring in joe biden? that would be a much more serious threat to hillary clinton and would be divisive for the democratic party. she profoundly hopes he stays at the sidelines. but the more he pecks away at her the chances go up. >> many republicans are upset that donald trump is able it to dominate the headlines. he has said his policies are coming, but we are more than a year away from the general election. how specific do, does he need to be here in the next few weeks and months in order to maintain or at least gain legitimacy. >> he is going to need to drill down and begin to answer questions about what would he do no iraq, what's he going to do with israel and egypt and so far and so on. and what's he going to do to grow the economy. it's interesting, errol that after all the hoop-de-do in the last few days in the debate and afterwards which was all about the antics, the behavior of the abortionists and narcissism. he said his campaign has no

that's why i love bobby kennedy so much much he is a liberal that was tough.he wrote for the "new york times," he's tough. >> i think today we heard donald trump in the same sentence with jack kennedy, arnold schwarzenegger and now mario cuomo. >> hey, heilman? deal with it. >> we're now talking about trump and the context of -- >> liberal and conservative. >> titans. jon meachum, what does very in common with all those people? bigger than life. no apologize and transcends politics. >> i think the compare and contrast essay question will take a lot of blue books. >> you actually found a way to make it boring. okay. >> whoa! >> i'll tell you what, bar comes right at you still. >> joining us on the phone, the front-runner, republican race for president donald trump. >> donald trump, we're trying to figure out exactly there is that wonderful moment in "tootsie" where bill murray says he loves people to go in his place and leaves a couple days later and asks the question, what just happened? a lot happened yesterday. we're still trying to get our arms around it. w

kennedy: and louisiana, bobby jindal did not say i am going to dial back my support of second amendmentthink that we need the thought police, get in people's heads, figure out who is doing these things and punish them before they commit crimes. >> definitely, we have -- >> have we lost another talented actor. >> we have, i thought she was going to get my support, i was going to vote for her in next year. kennedy: are you part of the academy. >> i wish that would be fun. kennedy: great. >> we have safeguards in place, there are laws in place, just make sure we're enforcing law. and that thor people's rights are not infringed upon, it is nuts that paperwork that i have too submit to get a lease for an apartment. and background check on me is significant, i can't imagine how it is not for something like a weapon. kennedy: try getting a gun in a place like washington, d.c. >> i will. kennedy: i was talking with a woman who wants a gun in a dangerous city for self protection, don't crime statistics bear it out, where there are more guns there is less crime, look at chicago, homicide rate, an

i worked for john kennedy, and also bobby. i have changed totally over because i'm not interested in the media and politics being able to tell us what is politically correct. i'm backing trump because he is a leader. as far as the 10 up there, you can pull part of his cabinet from them. they have some sharp ones up there. i'm also a backer of ted cruz, i would love to see him as vice president. other than c-span, we don't get anything that is open to people. it is basically what ever anyone thinks. we are not talking about what is really wrong in this country right now in all directions. we have to get someone in there who can change it and turn it around. i think trump can. guest: again, i think there's a lot of appeal in trump, and that is where the media comes in. with ross perot, there was this whole notion of running the government as a business. people love this idea of trump because he can be either the guy who takes the nomination and the bull in the china shop, or becomes a third-party candidate like ross perot. those

doris: my husband knew bobby and i think bobby's anger towards lyndon is once he got popular as president, he thought he was eclipsing jack kennedy's memory. my husband trying to make them feel better says, don't worry about that. julius caesar only had three years. bobby said, it helps to have shakespeare write about you. [laughter] i think that is what happened in bobby's eyes. charlie: lyndon's success made it hard? doris: i think so. i don't think he liked him all along, but for lyndon johnson, all the anger he felt about being upstaged by president kennedy put it on the brother. some people don't like each other, and it was not exaggerated that they were mortal enemies. charlie: they probably could have done a whole lot to help president jack kennedy because of all the things in the senate. doris: something happened. in the beginning he went into the democratic caucus and wanted to become a member as vice president and they did not want that. there is a separation of powers. he was so hurt by that. he thought he could have led the congress. can you imagine what we would have been as majority leader? charlie: probably not a goo