the snapshots of the 60s that's used with bobby kennedy. kennedy himself he is an iconic figure people have written about him arthur's lesson jurors famous book other people have written about him and his brother. what were the prevailing views but remain to be said about that? great question the prevailing views were he doesn't seem as central. people thought he did not do enough, he was not integrated into the context of african-american struggle. and also urban areas that become early 50s and 60s they amount. he really was on the margins on the civil rights movements. as i tell my students, what you find in the past is dependent upon the questions you ask. i was asking different kinds of questions. as you mentioned, it is classic. number of other biographies i learned a lot from. but can they looked in a different kind of context. now that the book is done i'm kind of surprised but all the sort of missed, what i missed and i've been working. but as you grassroots is a different dimension. it really is a fresh take and surprisingly. >> th

a literary agent i worked with said write a book about bobby kennedy. i didn't plan to write a book about him, but i realized as i read more deeply and looked at robert kennedy through the context of the racial struggles and trand -- transformation in the 1960s that would allow me to explore and really disrupt what we think we know and look at the larger context of racial change during that decade, and at the same time, i got to know him about him in ways that i really had no idea. i really think his public life which is really central i think had largely been overlooked. i sort of came into it, and it's been amazing journey. i have learned quite a bit. >> yeah. [inaudible]. it is a recreation as well of kennedy himself. you know, kennedy is somebody who people think they know, right? he's this iconic figure. people have written about him, arthur schlessinger's famous book. other people have written about him and his brother. what were the prevailing views of kennedy in civil rights when you started this project, and what remained to be said about that?

he brought as a journalist artist and friend of bobby kennedy to reminisce and to mourn the death of robert kennedy to mike will have been elected president if he had not been murdered. the 60s for carson wasn't all a matter of consciousness raising. one of his highest. show in fact the highest. show for carson was actually the wedding of an iconic figure of the 1960s known as tiny tim. tiny tim was famous for his falsetto rendition of tiptoe through the tulips and his unusual clothing style unusual even by the standards of the 1960s. when he tied the knot 58 million people tuned in to the special wedding show on the "tonight show." now johnny carson loved his work. he was really not all that happy when he wasn't working. he was a perfectionist and invested huge amounts of planning and energy into making the show look as spontaneous and is effortless as is seen through the television was not comfortable with the camera even with family. as johnny carson had a failure of his third marriage he said if i had put the work into by marriage that i had put in my show -- carson was friendly

it would have been better for the country to help bobby kennedy walk into that tall and red ligh-- rally the antiwar forces. it would have been great to have a real battle in the convention instead of on the streets of chicago. i am thrilled at the prospect that he would have lived and there would have been a debate over the war. it might have gone the right direction. it would have been a battle which we needed in the party and country. i hoped he would win. i can only predict -- i am pretty good at predicting elections thursday following tuesday. 2022 is going to be a cliffhanger. 2024 is going to be a cliffhanger. in our current situation, the 50-50 elections, we have to get voting rights straight. i believe, this is not the democratic field, i want the result election night. maybe for people serving armed dutch in the armed, overseas maybe have deadlines. allow pallets to be in the hands of the countries that day, evening so people can go to bed and know who the president is. if we do not do that we will have questions of skepticism. why does it take a week? the magnum people know th

i think you are quite right, i think the attorney general were to say either john mitchell, or bobby kennedy were to say with the microphone, i'm here to say that this president is reelected to a second term by doing everything possible to satisfy the constituency that put him here in the first place, that would be inappropriate and put the white house on the president in a difficult position. >> i think you all acknowledge there are times where the department will typically have civil matters, maybe not a criminal or enforcement matter, up but everyone is aware of where the president -- saying that aside, the attorney general in her or his own judgment have to make an independent evaluation on how they will participate in a certain case, or determine some other action. i was wondering, to give the audience some sense, can you each reflect on maybe a decision or two you had to make while you were serving in government where you felt like you really honored and preserve the idea of doj independence? maybe create intention with principle or concern that everyone was involved in. i don't know i

i think if a attorney general were to say,ne you know, a john mitchell or a bobby kennedy were to say at the microphone, i'm here to make sure that this president is re-elected to a second term, by doing everything possible, right, to satisfy the constituency that put him here in the first place, that would bebe wholly inappropriate and would put the president and the white house in a difficult position. >> i think you have all acknowledged there are times when the department will typically on civil matters, maybe on a criminal enforcement matter, the department will be aware what the white house would prefer on a specific piece of litigation or policy decision the a.g.on has to make. butt setting that aside, the attorney general in herat or hi own judgment hast to make an independentde evaluation of how they're going to participate in a certain caseus or determine se other action. and i'm just wondering, to give the audience some sense, could you each whreflect on a sishz o two you had to make while you were serving in government where you felt like you really honored the idea of doj

>> i'm a bobby kennedy guy. >> okay.ned for -- >> he held me when i was a baby. my mother was one of those -- i guess she handed me over i don't know, that's whey heard anyway >> that says it all. what i'm saying is if you look at game stop as just a company that sells games. >> right >> hardware games, no, once the cycle ends for all the new consoles, that's pretty much it, then you're -- i don't know what you're selling and ryou can get the consoles a best buy by the way, can i just say here's a little something, a little tidbit for you my friend. >> yes, sir. give it to me. >> corey barry is doing a remarkable job at best buy. >> oh, yeah? >> yeah, she has had very few supply chain problems for equipment that we all know comes from asia. >> yes >> and she's a master at it. by the way, do you know that -- remember when trump tried to get everybody to switch to vietnam >> yes >> harbor is not deep enough to handle any of t. >> you said that at the time i remember >> carl went over there, remember i mean, there was some

i had a debate with bobby kennedy. here you have two liberal democrats debating, i debated in favor of more vigorous vaccination, he was more skeptical of vaccination. they took down the debate. they didn't like what he said so they took down the debate andd they deprived the american public of the right to see a very thoughtful, educational debate. and they're doing it more and more and if they're not stopped, this will be the end of freedom of speech as we know it because these companies now control the market place of ideas. >> sean: gregg, we've got about 30 seconds, you get the ofinal word. >> well, these tech goliaths are behaving identically to the railroad barons in the oil tycoons of a century ago and teddy roosevelt moved to break them up and succeeded in doing so. several decades ago, same thing with at&t, abusive monopolistic practices. this selective censorship of ideas with which you disagree is abhorrent, it needs to stop, and the only way to do it, i think, because congress won't do it, is through the f

and he and his brother bobby kennedy and the justice department had fashioned a program to try to assisthen president johnson came in with his big texas approach and enlarged it and became the war to eradicate poverty. and if you define poverty is a certain percentage of our population, and they try to eradicate it, it is not possible because there's always the certain percentage that sits or fits in that category. they immediately started a program, there was job corps, head start, migrant programs, programs, drug programs, community action programs. there must've been 12 or 15 different programs under this umbrella on the war on poverty. the design was that it would bypass governors and mayors and elected officials and of course that had the effect of angering republican and democrats mayors and public officials. because the money would come straight from the federal government to organizations, community organizations that would describe as having maximum feasible participation was a concept. in bypassing the mayors and with the started to do was oppose local government. the local cit

bobby kennedy. the dead president's brother, who also says i, too, will stand against this war in vietnam, i, too, will challenge the seated president of the united states. johnson is horrified at what he sees as detrayal by his own party's senatorial representatives, and you know, it's a real moment of truth for him. johnson is not in the best of health. he's had gallbladder surgery. his heart is not good. he is facing credible stress from a war that he never wanted to fight but felt it was unavoidable. he decides in the face of this genuine challenge to quit. he doesn't quit the presidency, but he walks away from thinks campaign to be reelected. so electorally, this movement has had impact, but it doesn't have success. to cut to the chase, the man who wins the democratic nomination is not kennedy. he's, you all know, assassinated june 1968 by someone not interested in the war in vietnam, but who had other axes to grind. so kennedy is killed. probably would not have been able to get the nomination.

into the frame jumps the senator from new york, bobby kennedy. the president's brother. he also says i too will stand against this war in vietnam. i too will challenge the sitting presidents of the united states. . johnson is horrified. he sees this is a betrayal by his own parties senatorial representatives. and it's a real moment of truth for him. not in the best of health. he's had gallbladder surgery. his heart is not good. he has incredible stress from a war he never wanted to fight but felt it was unavoidable. he decides in the face of this genuine challenge to quit. it is not quinte the presidency but he walks away from the campaign to be reelected. electorally, this movement has had impact, but it does not have success. cut to the chase, the man who wins the democratic nomination is not community as you all know was assassinated in 1968 by, someone not interested in the war in vietnam. kennedy is killed and probably would not have been able to get the nomination. mccarthy never had the kind of gravitas, he was a charismatic political figure to carry it out, and i

if the attorney general were to say, you know, john mitchell or a bobby kennedy were to say at the microphone i'm here to make sure is that this president is re-elected to a second term by doing everything possible, right, to -- to satisfy the constituencies that put him here in the first place, that would be wholly inappropriate and put the white house and the president in a very difficult position. >> i think there's times now that the president will on -- what may happen on a specific pose of legislation or a policy decision the a.j. has to make, but setting that aside the attorney general in her or his own judgment has to make independent evaluation of how they are going to just participate in a certain case or determine some other action and to give the audience some sense, can you each reflect on maybe a decision or two you had to make while you were serving in government when you felt like you honor and preserved the idea of doj independence even though it may have created friction. i don't know if there's specific examples that would give the audience a sense of the considerations tha

maybe times when it only gets to bobby kennedy as attorney general, but no evidence anywhere that they didn't talk about everything together. so i would say, we are almost guaranteed that there is implicit blessing, and i would think that it is more explicit. kennedy may have, you know, maybe not said, let's put a bullet in his head, but you can listen to the ex-com communications from the cuban missile crisis like we tried to get rid of that guy, and we need to try to get rid of that guy, and they are not saying what caliber of rifle to use, but they are saying that we need to kill the dude, and that is pretty explicit in my book. apologists and revisionist historians, and i get that, but i don't think that it makes kennedy any worse, and people are trying to rehabilitate some kind of camelot out of this, and seymour hearst took that down a notch or two, but you don't have to. because this is what we did. if it weren't it it was eisenhower before that. it was johnson after that, right? this was the american way of doing war without actually doing war. and, you know, until church and p

there might be times when we only get to bobby kennedy, the attorney general, but there is no evidence they didn't talk about everything together. so i would say we're almost guaranteeds there is explicit blessing and i would say it is more explicit. kennedy may have not said let's put a bullet in his head. but i think we could listen to the ex com communications from the cuban missile crisis where they talked about stuff like we tried to get rid of that guy. we need to get rid of that guy. they're not saying what caliber rifle to use but they're saying we need to kill the dude and i think that is pretty explicit in my book. and they're historians and i get that. i don't think it makes kennedy any worse. i think people are trying to rehabilitate some kind of camelot out of this. sea more hurst took that down, if you read dark side of camelot. this is what we did. if it wasn't kennedy, it would have been nixon. it was eisenhower before that and johnson after that. this was the american way of doing war. without actually doing war. and until church and pike made that explicitly illegal,

the disinformation it that he is referring, to number two on the list is bobby kennedy jr.p. he is from the most prominent democratic family in america, rather than calling him up and saying bobby, come on over, let's talk about this, they gave the list to facebook and said do something about it yesterday, she, jen psaki said, do you know what? we are not asking them to take things down. she walked back everything and said the white house not flagging posts for facebook to censor as she originally said. but now said they are not asking facebook to block any individual post. so they -- it has really hit the fan because, think about. brian: does anyone believe that. steve: the biden people are getting from facebook and for them to say hey, you are killing people. that doesn't help them. brian: they told us last week they are working with facebook. and say they are killers. now say they are not working with facebook. ainsley: and not killers. brian: people against vaccines period we see them every day in life. there is people think that it's linked to autism. we have had that

>> if you ask people, you'll hear bobby, ben bradley, dave pollard. i decided to ask kennedy's loved to go to horse races, play golf. they bonded instantly, becomes great friends for the next 25 years. by the time kennedy becomes president, gore and his wife sissy are the kennedy's favorite weekend companions. at their third child lived, sissy gore would have been the godmother. he becomes the most influential foreign policy adviser. even though he was a british citizen and at the time british ambassador to the u.s. he was in the white house constantly during the cuban missile crisis. he was the single and most effective advocate, convincing kennedy to sign the limited nuclear test ban treaty in 1963 which basically begins the end of the cold war. one of my favorite friendships. it's substantive and actually changes the world for the better. >> talk about how it's often the little things, though, that get these presidents through many of their toughest times. you brought up the fdr example. i always remember a kol let me from 10, 15 years ago of maureen department of defense, w

kennedy. pope john. john glenn. graham. the beatles. peace corps. clay. pope paul. the wall. johnson. warhol. streisand. dope. black power. goldwater. hippie. dion. woodstock. the pill. james bond. tiny tim. hair. >> brant. bobbyllace. golda meier. ecology. the supremes. apollo. psychedelic. wyeth. joe namath. malcolm x. armstrong. nixon. indira gandhi. demonstrations. l.e.m. but no name, no single word repeated itself as often on the pages of the 1960s and with so much controversy as the name "vietnam." >>> it was a strange mixture of peace and war. a battlefield nowhere and a battlefield everywhere. life during the day, death at night. an ally at one moment, an enemy the next. a lush jungle mixed with the rust of barbed wire. it was all of this. those who wanted to find the war might have had to hunt for it. those who didn't want to find the war often became the hunted. and around the world, and particularly the united states of america, there was another battle. a battle of words, of politics and debate. the question was who was the hunter in vietnam and who was the hunted. who would define aggressor and defender. and there was the larger search for a definition of the word "peace." did peace mean only the

kennedy, pope john. john cullen. graham, the beatles, the peace corps, clay, pope paul, the wall, johnson, warhol, streisand, black power, hippie, dion, woodstock. james bond. tiny tim. king. hair. bobby, wallace, ecology, the supremes, a poll, psychedelic, you check, quiet, join amy, malcolm x, armstrong, nixon, endure gandhi, demonstrations. but no name, no single word repeated itself so often as the pages in the 1960s and with so much controversy as the name, vietnam. >> it was a strange mixture of peace and war, a battlefield nowhere, and the battlefield everywhere. life during the day. death at night. an ally at one moment. an enemy the next. a lush jungle mixed with a brushed barb wire. it was all of this. those who didn't want to find the war might have had to hunt for. it those who didn't want to find the war often become the hunted. around the world and particularly the united states of america, there was another battle, a battle of words. politics, and debate. the question was who was the hunter in vietnam, and who was the hunted. who would define aggressor and defender? there was a larger search for the definition of the word peace. did peace only mean the absence of war or