that, once again, i want to take proper recognition of the founder of the black panther party, bobby seale. co-founder along with hugh -- huey p. newton. >> i think it would be remiss if we didn't give chairman bobby the microphone just to say -- >> absolutely. -- >> you know, a quick thing to the audience tonight. [laughter] >> bobby's in town for a speaking engagement at penn state tomorrow. >> right. >> but he heard about jamal tonight, and he couldn't miss it. >> yeah, i had to see jamal. [laughter] i think jamal and i, after all those years, ran into each other on the more taan downey jr -- morton downey jr. show. >> that film public enemy that we did together. >> bobby, i need you to come up here. what are you talking about, felipe? he was with the young lords party. and i -- [laughter] i said, man, i'm not coming on that show. if i came on that show and that dude stuck my finger in my nose, i'd say i'm going to knock him out. and if he wants some ratings, he's going to really get some ratings. he said, no, bobby, he's scared of you. i wound up doing that show three times. >> right.