amy: so if you could respond to this, carol anderson, to respond to bobby seale?, so, what bobby seale is talking about is the depth othe police violence and brutality that was raining down on the black community. the uprisings that we saw in watts, in cleveland, in newark, in detroit were all fueled not only by those horrific conditions in those places, but also by police btality. and the black panther party for self-defense was founded as a response to the brutality of the oakland police department. d so what the black panthers did, they said, "we will police the poli." they knew what the law said about open carry in california. and they also knew what the law said about the distance that you had to maintain from a police officer arresting someone. so the black panthers woulcome to those arrests fully armed with the kinds of legal weons that they were allowed to have and the police did not like it. they did not like it. and so the oakland police department went to don mulford, an assemblyman, a california assemblyman, and said, "we need your help. we need to mak