it wasn't just, with all due respect, it wasn't just bobby seally. it was the serious role the women played, tell me more about the role you and other women played in this movement 50 years ago? >> well, it's curious to think about role. we were all there together. so we were all -- we called ourselves revolutionaries, we were all social justice people, and it didn't matter to us man or woman, young or old. however, we do live in a society that tends not to respect. and care about the needs of the voices of the lives of women, and girls. and so we really were a model for the movements to come. and i know this, because now i work with younger women. and younger organizations, and we were some of the first women to step forward and say, we can do this as well. and i want to say that as a woman joining the black panther party, i knew that the police were not going to treat me like a woman. because my blackness superseded my femaleness. so now i'm talking about the way things are threaded together. our cone siding identities. but after the first few year