unconditional cooperation with nato for many and training abroad, all this together gave the result bodanovs the head of intelligence came out exclusively from this war since 2014. so this experience. i think that it was absolutely not in vain, on the contrary, it had its effect on but still, i think here, you know, this is a war for our future. patriotic attitude is not just that you know, formally loyalist, some kind of tribute, political situation, no, people do not understand what they are protecting, and besides, i think that they belong to a new generation, a more modern generation that thinks differently, that does not condone, ot zaluzhne, ot in one of his interviews, he just and he didn't realize that the russian army is an authoritarian authoritarian in the second grass, hence this attitude like meat to those who fight on the russian side, but here, after all, i understand that we are a democratic, free state, worldview another the country's state system, the need for discipline, and there are also problems here, and there is that in 2022, a law was passed that was more cruel , ma