boehner, mr. boehner, mr. boehner, mr. boehner, mr. boehner, mr. boehner, mr. boehner. >> reporter: the very place boehner had given a speech two weeks before, slamming the president's economic plans. >> there were no new ideas. there was just the same philosophy that we had already tried during the decade that they were in power. >> reporter: on sunday the republican leader fired back. >> we have offered him new ideas for the last 20 months and speaking of new, i wonder what's new about more stimulus spending, more taxes, more uncertainty for american small businesses? >> reporter: elected in 1990, boehner has become one of the most outspoken members of the republican party, but outside washington, he is still relatively unknown. the white house is looking to change that. >> so what the white house is trying to do here is put a face on what has been a somewhat abstract argument by elevating boehner you give him more visibility and you put him in a more central role on the stage. >> reporter: well, congress

boehner. >> we've offered him new ideas for the last 20 months. >> reporter: on sunday, boehner said he wants to see the bush era taxes for all income brackets, but would support an extension limited to the middle class if he has no other choice. >> i think that's bad policy. i don't think that's going to help our economy. >> reporter: still, the white house claimed the g.o.p. leader had changed his tune. >> i think that congressman boehner was fairly clear yesterday in outlining a position that the president outlined last week. >> reporter: on sunday, a new york times article portrayed boehner as indebted to lobbyists and 45 currently or recently departed house members raised more from lobbyists than boehner, among them house speaker nancy pelosi twice as much. and yet, there was gibbs using twitter to call attention to the article. and one had kinds things to say, and kinds the white house strategy in this case inadvisable in the business of swearing voters. >> i think they hear the president talk about boehner, what the hell is he talking about, talking about matters that matter t

boehner dismiss these job. mr. boehner. mr. boehner. let me clear to mr. boehner and everybody else. >> health care overtime is going to become more popular. people are focused on this economy now. >> it would take a real stretch to think that i caused the problems with the economy. >> u.s.a.! >> the president: there were no new ideas just the same philosophy we tried during the decades they were in power. >> if the president wants to do something new why don't we cut spending and get rid of in notion we can spend our way back to prosperity? >> sean: there you have it. we are just 50 days from the midterm elections. as democrats prepare it seems their concerns keep growing. a new report details that house speaker nancy pelosi may have more to worry about nan just losing her title, if the democrats lose their majority power. there may be a coup in the works. it appears some democrats in the house think their party needs a shake-up. rumor has it that steny hoyer might take the reins. the democrat with the most to lose is prince harry reid. new polls show tea

boehner is. secondly the mosque issue and the issue of the burning korans was a tremendous distraction all week. third, his proposal, some of which are interesting, credits like that. they are too little, they are too late. frankly some of his rhetoric, they treat me like a dog is getting pity me, it doesn't come off well. >> what is the political part on obama's part? >> you have to put a face on the opposition and mr. boehner is a pretty good face. he has been in the congress since 1990. he was part of the gingrich revolution in 1995. he was video taped on the house floor handing out checks from the tobacco industry to members while they were discussing ending tobacco subsidies. he advocated in cleveland a few days before the president made this speech. he is advocating a return to 2008 spending levels and to the bush tax cuts. so what is different between what john boehner who would be the speaker if the republicans gain power and what george w. bush represented. so the president is trying to

let boehner be boehner and obama, obama. now to the big number.the saying goes, it appears the cake is baked this november. per analyst nate silver. what are the chances that republicans will gain control of the house come november 2nd by nightfall? 67% the republicans have a 2-in-3 shot of taking over the house of representatives. tonight's fast rising big bad number. >>> up next republican mike castle was a shoo-in many thought to win the senate seat in delaware. until the tea party challenger rolled over him in the polls. are the republicans on the verge of losing a race that they had in the bag? you're watching "hardball" on msnbc. ♪ where'd you learn to do that so well. ♪ the new cadillac srx. the cadillac of crossovers. cadillac. the new standard of the world. i look great in my wedding dress with the help of your amazing light soups. now we're adding even bigger pieces of white-meat chicken. oh, so when's the big day? oh, we got married years ago. but the point is, i fit in it. well, good for you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta tas

boehner. mr. boehner. mr. boehner. there were no new policies from mr. boehner. boehner. boehner. boener and the republicans in congress, i bet this just seems like common sense. but not to mr. boehner. >> president obama finds a foil in his speech in cleveland, the man who would be speaker if the republicans take the house in november. we'll talk about that and more with george will, arianna huffington, kate zernike, and abc senior congressional correspondent, jonathan karl. thank you all. welcome. let's take john boehner. since we just heard his name a lot. and he's just made some news by saying that he seems to -- if he would have to, make a compromise on the middle class tax cuts and vote for just extending them. is that a go, do you think? is that a qualifier? >> i think he means what he says, some tax cuts are better than none. he wants to fight for all of them. seven times he mentioned john boehner. the president of the united states has met the enemy of hope, freedom, and prosperity in congressman from ohio. he has a 78-seat majority in the house of representatives and joh

boehner and everybody else. boehner and ingbilloy else.end tax cuts that average more than $100,000 a year to millionaires and even bil lea for government $3.7 trillion o >> what are the odds of the bush tax cuts get extended before election day? >> i'd say the chances are zero that those tax cuts get extended. >> reporter: what we are seeing is a white house worried about john boehner becoming the next speaker. and how would the house operate under a speaker boehner? the ohioan has already called for the repeal of the president's health care reform and the financial reform law. so the white house press secretary was quick to point to a "new york times" story. a republican leader tightly bound to lobbyists, including those from wall street. >> so that they can go back to writing the rules themselves. they say we don't need to buy access to mr. boehner, we already have -- >> reporter: mr. boehner has gotten the attention of the white house. press secretary robert gibbs put out a statement late today saying while they welcome his words time

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boehner, mccarthy, and hoyer, only on "fox news sunday." also while president obama talks peace at the u.n., a new book details bitter struggles inside his war cabinet. we'll ask our sunday panel about the president's foreign policy. and our power player of the week. a political whiz kid runs the biggest show in town. all right now on "fox news sunday." and hello again from fox news in washington. house republicans unveiled this 45-page document thursday that lays out their legislative agenda. the plan calls for smaller and more limited government, repeal of president obama's healthcare reform, and cuts in federal spending and extending bush era tax cuts to help create jobs. joining us exclusively today to discuss their plan, house republican leader john boehner and congressman kevin mccarthy, who was the driving force behind the pledge. gentlemen, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> thank you for having me. >> chris: president obama says this is the worn-out philosophy of president bush in the pledge. you would extend tax cuts. congressm

boehner. there were no new ideas. there was just the same philosophy that we had already tried during the decade that they were in power; the same philosophy that led to this mess in the first place. cut more taxes for millionaires. and cut more rules for corporations. >> schieffer: what about that? >> well, listen, you know, the president says we have no new ideas. we've offer him new ideas for the last 20 months. and speaking of new, i wonder what's new about more stimulus spending, more taxes and more uncertainty for american small businesses. that's what the president is proposing. what's new about that? if the president wants to get serious and wants to do something new, why don't we cut spending and get rid of this notion that we can continue to spend our way back to prosperity. >> schieffer: the big difference, of course, between you and the president is that you want to extend the bush tax cuts that run out this year to all americans, including the wealthiest americans. the president wants to extend them only

boehner's opening of the door about tax cuts? actually vote with democrats on this. >> well, i think these are just words. i learned a long time ago, not to pay a whole lot of attention to what people say. watch what they do. and that is the real test here. i think that what we've heard from mr. boehner for a long, long time now is that they've got a plan for america. i call it the three rs, they want to repeat, they want to reject, and they want to repeal. they want to repeal those laws that we've already put into place to close these loopholes so we can create jobs here in america. they want to reject president obama's middle-class tax cuts. and they want to repeat the blowing up of deficit which is what we're to do if entries or extend president bush's tax cuts. $700 billion deficit increase. that's not what the american people want. >> yeah. >> and so i think we not going to let mr. boehner hide behind his words. we're going to sign on his actions. >> okay. well, the president was in cleveland just last week. made a strong pi

disarray equals boehner versus cantor, mcconnell versus mcconnell boehner says the white house is spinninghis meant. is this junior high or what? former senator santorum joins us live. good evening this is very important substantive issue as to whether or not tax cuts should be extended. robert gibbs is not the president. to show that much disrespect for an elected member of congress, even referring to him as boehner, we refer to president obama as president obama, you senator. when is president obama going to slap down his press secretary, it is one thing to have a disagreement but at lost show some respect. >> i think he has taken his cues from his boss. saw the president, we talked about this the last time i was on the show. the president was out on the road talking trash to republicans. being very condescending to personally condescending to leader boehner and others. what i think he's doing is sort of actually following his boss' lead as opposed to doing something that his boss doesn't want him to do, unfortunately. >> greta: interesting, because i know there's been a lot of talk abou

but, what are we to believe about speaker boehner? how would you run things. >> i have watched speakers for 20 years and i have seen the good and bad parts and i think it is time for a real fair and open process in the congress and today you have a handful of people who decide the outcome of almost any bill even though 435 of us serve in the house, each of us representing roughly 650,000 people, i think every member ought to have the opportunity to represent his constituents, both democrats and republicans, and that means a fair and open process in the house, unlike anything that i have seen in the 20 years i have been here. >> chris: would you, i know we are getting ahead here but the voters need -- i think probably want to know how you'd run things and what kind of a house it would be, with speaker boehner. would you see your role as speaker as blocking the obama agenda or looking for areas of compromise? >> i think the american people want us to find a way to work together, to address the concerns that face the american people ever

boehner spoke out against that today. is he admitting that he fears the possibility that it would be employed? >> yeah. i think they do fear it. it's an odd procedure and i do sort of wonder how the democrats would go along with it. so a suspension requires two-thirds vote and what you would be doing and it would be the first time i've ever seen any of them do this would be instead of getting the number of votes you need down in reconciliation, you'd be getting the number of votes up so more would cross over and vote for the tax cuts the for the rich but they still wouldn't pass. somehow i have trouble seeing it happening. if it does, it would be quite a way to end the session. >> turning to this other subject, it would be hard to believe last week looking ahead the gop pledge to america would continue to gain traction for reasons that the gop could not possibly have wanted. it's been criticized from both ends of things. have democrats been handed something that they can pick apart from now until the 2nd of november? >> v

wannabe house speaker john boehner. the wizard behind the pledge to america says the american people aren't ready for solutions. how about that? i'm ready to give him a few words on my mind coming up in a moment. >>> governor chris christie, he's the biggest threat to our nation's scschools. when he's not yelling at people at town hall meetings and trimming the fat at expense of our teachers, i'm doing my part for nbc's education notion. >>> the false prophet glenn beck is freaking out about dangerous killers coming from the left. his rhetoric is what's dangerous and it needs to stop. >>> this is the story that has me fired up tonight. john boehner has been out in the sun just probably a little bit too long, hasn't he? the tan man is flustered and back pedalling on his pledge to america. the republicans' so-called new governing agenda to set a different course for the country is nothing but a garbage sale. american people aren't buying it. after 20 months of offering no ideas, he and his cronies laid out their playbook

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boehner. mr. boehner. mr. boehner. mr. boehner. >> reporter: he's trying to make boehner, a republican house leader during the bush years, his de facto republican opponent. seizing on a speech boehner gave just over two weeks ago. >> there were no new ideas. there was just the same philosophy that we had already tried during the decade that they were in power. >> reporter: and diane, president obama was full of praise for some republicans today -- reagan, eisenhower, lincoln. all of whom are dead. he called those great leaders, and suggested the current crop of republicans is not. diane? >> well, thank you, jake. and as you just told us, the white house does argue that this is the choice. either america borrows $700 billion or increases taxes on the wealthy to get that money. but republicans say raising taxes even on the wealthy will hurt too many small businesses, and that will stall the creation of jobs. so who's right? we asked jonathan karl to check the facts. >> reporter: republicans claim raising taxes on those earni

it's one issue what boehner says.here's boehner on the tax cuts. >> if the only option i have is to vote for some of those tax reductions, i'll vote for them. but i've been making the point now for months that we need to extend all the current rates for all americans if we want to get our want to get jobs in ame >> real tactical mistake. he gave way the back position. came to a dead end and you get nothing or some tax cuts would take some. but that was a mistake. >> why was it a mistake? i don't get it. >> because a lot of democrats will say -- >> if boehner can take the tax hikes for the rich, the democrats will say we've got cover behind john boehner. but now the republicans are back on all or nothing at all. >> he had to take care of the straying republicans who want to vote with the democrats. >> there aren't any. >> well, there aren't any. that's one thing boehner has done well and mitch mccobble has one it well in the senate, the democrats, and what i want to know is if we're letting about letting the bush tax c

>> john boehner here is not well known nationally. i think they are targeting boehner for one reason. there are trying to frame this debate as a cost more fair debate. if you look at him with his golf excursions, his tan, he can represent the laissez-faire and that democrats are looking to tack on to republicans. they see a package there. i still think it is pretty tough because he is not a national player. >> the same thing happened with the republicans and nancy pelosi. that does not usually work. i have to say, obama has suddenly come alive and is talking like a regular person. when i say there are fish in the sea, i say no. when the sky is blue, i say no. i think people identify with that a bit. >> going after john boehner is pointless. most of all, people have no idea who you are talking about. people in cleveland do not know who john boehner is. they think he is from southern ohio. it took a year of new gingrich tossed political excesses' an office before he became a demon so that bill clinton could run against him in 1996. the

you know, he said that -- i'm in this wrestling match with john boehner, but boehner was the one whoe out on sunday sounding like he was ready to make a deal. are we making a deal? or are we having a wrestling match here? it's interesting to hear the president come out and say that. couldn't the minority leader argue he was simply trying to govern? >> no, certainly -- certainly he could argue that. and what you will hear from his aides is that he was trying to undercut a white house argument that obviously they were fearful was taking hold. and that is that republicans are holding tax cuts for the middle class hostage for tax cuts for the wealthy. but what you're hearing from republicans sources on this is that perhaps boehner tipped his hand a little too soon. that this was something he could've held out on as they argue for this. obviously in the house, the republicans don't have a whole lot of control about what's going to pass. and there are a lot of democrats who, you know, feel the way republicans do about this tax cut. >> all right. brianna keilar, our congressional correspond

boehner and senator mcconnell and... they weren't going to vote for any meaningful health care bill. they weren't going to support any student loan reform that the banks didn't like. they were going to oppose the financial oversight bill. we got a couple of republicans for that. and i think he was shocked at the intensity of the republican opposition. but they learned, from my first two years, that if you just say no, even though people hate it, you get rewarded for it because it discourages the democrats and it inflames your base. so they're doing just what they did in '93 and '94. and so far, it appears that they're being rewarded for it. i think that it disoriented him for a while. he just kept trying and kept trying. i also think he believed that if he accomplished a lot on the legislative front that would be reflected in a better political climate. but the problem is there's a huge lag time, once you get in a deep economic hole, between digging out of it and having people feel it. so i think, you know, look, bob, if

boehner. privatizing social security, privatizing medicare and veterans benefits and ending unemployment compensation. i think that's a bad set of ideas. they think it's good ideas but they're specific ideas. this is what this election ought to be about. >> now you see, when you're taking a look at politics from paul begala, colored glasses, you get fear instead of hope. this is what paul is running with and this is why you're going to see a change in november, because the american people see -- >> clearly the -- >> the extreme overreach is the obama administration spending exponentially higher. >> are you saying there aren't tea party candidates that want that? you're saying paul is flat out wrong? >> what we're seeing from house republicans is an effort to achieve a consensus. it is always a work in progress. and just one final comment. as i heard the interview with john boehner, i thought back when jack kennedy announced the goal of sending men to the moon and bringing them safely back home

, is john boehner going to be so concerned with the tea party conservatives in his caucus and out inhe country that he's not going to be willing to come together with president obama? that's going to be the essence -- gwen: why would it be after the election if he's not for the election if 2012 is around the corner? >> at that point john boehner would have responsibility for running the government and would -- might feel as newt gingrich did at some point with bill clinton the obligation to make a deal. the question is can you make a deal when they're after you? >> the independents in a presidential year play a larger part than in the off year. the way for independents is to see if they'll participate. in a presidential year they participate by larger numbers. so the pressure on john boehner and the republican candidates, do i listen to the pea party -- tea party or keep myself alive in -- >> i think the dynamics are different than in 1994. newt gingrich was the clear leader of the revolution. he didn't have a revolution forced upon him. boehner has not been the leader of this. >> mo

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wants to welcome you to boehner boehner land.the country with lobbyists. team up with wall street to block reform. >> joining us -- jenna: joining us now chris van holland. chairman of the democratic campaign committee. why is john boehner so scary. >> reporter: it's not that john boehner is scary, it's the proposal he's making that given the opportunity as speaker he would enact. i think it's important that people understand exactly what the agenda of john boehner and the washington republicans will be, because it will be a return to the days where the special interests had their way in terms of governing economic policy and we need to continue to make progress. i don't think anybody wants to go back to those days. jenna: a fair amount of americans, though, don't really even know who john boehner is. why the strategy to go after him in particular and not maybe go after the broader policies. >> no it is the policies and he's the one who has been articulating the policies. he gave a speech in cleveland, ohio not long ago where he

>> no. >> john boehner, mitch mcconnell the ugliest guys in america. >> john boehner is a friend of mineho john boehner is. >> we know he smokes. >> who cares. >> this doesn't look presidential. you have the president of the united states saying john boehner and mitch mcconnell. you have the bully pulpit. >> you make your point. isn't that a problem for the president of the united states, don't blame me, blame this guy from ohio that smokes and playing golf. >> it happens to be true they are the ones standing in the way. >> he said on sunday he would vote for the bill. >> the midterms for democrats is a referendum on the economy and what the white house is trying to do and i think it is a smart to do is to make it a choice. that is what voters are making, a choice between obama's direction or john boehner's and the republicans' direction. that is the only way you can say it. >> the bottom line. the tea parties are out there. almost insurrection for a year. they have won seven big races knocking out establishment figures, specter, charlie crist, bob bennett. incumbents and challengers. kn

so many times john boehner isn't the reason that americans are so frustrated with the economy i don't i think it's going to be tough to pin it on him on the other you know and this is not going to have any effect before the november election i think probably the best hope is that this kind of starts the divide that will have the real battles which will begin after the november election after democrats sort of get wiped off the table and then for two years obama will run aggressively against speaker boehner with the hope that that will catapult him to reelection in two thousand and twelve now what do you make of his decision here with the tax cuts the fact that he is not going to extend or you know he doesn't plan on extending the tax cuts for the rich. it in my mind is kind of a non-issue i mean the fact is that his excuse for not wanting to extend the tax cut is something of a lie he says we can't afford the seven hundred billion over ten years there's actually no basis for that it's not that much seven hundred billion sounds like a lot but over ten years compared to how much debt we

president obama took on mcconnell and boehner while speaking in virginia when he was taking questions about the economy. >>> they should definitely get an extension of the tax cuts of 2001 through 2003. we could get that done this week. but we're still in this wrestling match where john boehner and mitch mcconnell about the last 2% to 3% where on average where you make $100,000 for people making $1 million or more. >> president obama heads to philly today to deliver the second back-to-school speech. last year, the speech got some national attention. according to the text released by the white house last night, the president will tell students your future is in your hands, your life is what you make of it. and nothing, absolutely nothing is beyond your reach. last year, obama gave a similar televised pep talk at wakefield high school in arlington. but as you remember, that speech sparked controversy beforehand as critics suggested it could inject ideology into the classroom. they said he was spreading propaganda to children. >>> new surveillance video out of california shows the deadly

hey, this is boehner's.oes this mean he already starts out as a speaker that's going to be, if he becomes speaker, that is going to be so answerable to the grass roots that we won't be able to even cut a deal with the senate majority leader, whether it's reid or mcconnell, or with the president without making sure he doesn't lose his own caucus. >> it's going to be a tough job. normally, the discipline questions come in for the senate side. in the house here, he's going to have trouble with this big class of freshmen coming in if all the predictions are correct. at the same time, he's got to worry about the people who have been criticizing him. >> there are a lot of speakers in waiting besides john boehner. thank you, both. >>> come iing up, chris christis a true gentleman not afraid of a fight. especially to defend a lady. today feels like an entire show that got turned into a side show. in the sky ♪ ♪ for a chain of supply, that's logistics ♪ ♪ when the parts for the line ♪ ♪ come precisely on time ♪ that'

boehner. mr. boehner. mr. boehner. mr. boehner. >> reporter: he's trying to make boehner, a republican house yethe bush years, his de facto republican opponent. seizing on a speech he made just two weeks ago. >> there's no new ideas. it was the same philosophy that we had already tried during the decade they were in power. >> reporter: the president was full of praise for some republicans. eisenhower, lincoln, reagan all of whom are dead. he called them great leaders. suggesting that the current crop of republican leaders is not. jake tapper abc news the white house. >>> we will get more of president obama's take on the tax cut issue in a special interview with george stephanopoulos coming up on "good morning america." >>> as the nation struggles with some bitter divisions over the economy, foreign policy and wars overseas secretary of state hillary clinton says it's time to seize what she calls a new american moment. in a major speech to the council on foreign relations, clinton said we must try striking a balance to avoi

but democrats blame boehner. >> he has taken millions from special interest and now boehner wants to talk about reforming congress? that's funny. >> reporter: democrats claim republican attempt to undue the president healthcare initiative and financial regulatory reforms would mean return to bush administration policy to trigger the recession we're climbing out of. republicans say a bigger threat is the debt we're amassing under democratic leadership. >> the current congressional rules are rigged to make it easy to increase spending and next to impossible to cut spending. >> boehner suggests congress has a cut as you go rule for new government programs to basically freeze the size of government. but the white house says the republicans aren't willing to apply the rules to extend the bush administration upper income tax cuts. >> if you read through the pledge, they came up with $16 billion to pay for $17 billion program. you don't have to be a math whiz to figure out that's just rhetoric. >> reporter: republicans note extenting the middle class portion of the bush tax cuts would cost

boehner some republicans showed signs they don't know how to proceed. if democrats make them choose tax cuts for 98% of america or tax cuts for no one. senator grassley to the a.p. it's kind of a conundrum i'm not sure i can answer your question. i'll probably vote for it. congressman from texas to politico yesterday, out there in theoretical land might there be something that we vote on that is half a loaf? i suppose so. joining us back here in actual land as promised. stan greenberg, we should note does polling for nbc news. great thanks for joining us tonight, sir. >> npr and l.a. times. >> we got the whole roster out there. give us your assessment of the caucus tonight and what you told them and how much they listened? >> this issue is obviously taken seriously. i came over here, the caucus was supposed to be over, it was still going on, discussing this subject with a lot of support for addressing this. i don't want to talk about what members said in the caucus. that's for them to raise. i can talk about, you know, the polling that we did, and what