boehner. congressman boehner aching speaker in 2011. it is expected that friday will be his last day in congress. this is an hour. the gentleman from ohio. mr. chabot: having represented a neighboring district to john boehner, i have come to know john pretty well and not consider him not just a colleague but a friend. not just this, but we have had a lot in common. we both lived in the cincinnati area our entire lives. we were born and grew up in a small blue-collar neighborhood just to the north of the city of cincinnati although my family ved to cincinnati when i was six years old. john was the second of 12 children. we are raised catholic and i know having pope francis speaking to us. rivalh played football in high schools. and incredibly. we both played defense. in fact, we both have ties to former head coaches at notre dame. john played at moore high school and i was recruited to william ap marry. we both worked to put ourselves through schools as january tors. later, we ran small busines

boehner, for that.hank you, congresswoman kaptur, for recent article that i read that you wrote about speaker boehner and i think you said it all when you talked about his life here in congress. and you said, we all have benefited in our state from the great work he's done. i agree with you. thank you, mr. speaker, for always taking my calls, thank you for always having an open door, and i leave you with these words, the words of nelson mandela. it always seems impossible until it's done. thank you, mr. speaker. job well done. mr. chabot: reclaiming my time, the gentlelady refered to being able to attend the funeral of nelson mandela. the speaker made it possible for me to also go on a bipartisan delegation to the funeral of pope john paul ii. it's one of those experiences a once in a lifetime thing. 5 sad occasion but one that was inspirational to me and a lot of other members who when as well. i'd now like to yield to my colleague, the gentleman from ohio, mr. scifres. mr. scifres: today i rise to hon

boehner. so thank you, mr. speaker, on behalf of not only -- not only on behalf of the largest republican majority since 1928, but on behalf of my family, and for your and debby's personal kindness and guidance to us. good luck, mr. speaker. thank you. i yield back. mr. chabot: thank you. i thank the gentleman for his kind words and i'd like to now yield to the gentlelady from, ms. kaptur. ms. kaptur: thank you, i'd like to yield time to charles rangel. mr. rangel: ask to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. rangel: while i'm not only going to miss speaker john boehner, but i'm going to miss when he leave next year the congress that john boehner loved and i have loved so much. if republicans think that they had a problem with john boehner, they should have known jack kemp. because it was jack kemp that introduced -- introduced me to boehner. at that time we acknowledged that there were democrats and republicans, but the whole idea that you could be vind

boehner. so thank you, mr. speaker, on behalf of not only -- not only on behalf of the largest republican majority since 1928, but on behalf of my family, and for your and debby's personal kindness and guidance to us. good luck, mr. speaker. thank you. i yield back. mr. chabot: thank you. i thank the gentleman for his kind words and i'd like to now yield to the gentlelady from, ms. kaptur. ms. kaptur: thank you, i'd like to yield time to charles rangel. mr. rangel: ask to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. rangel: while i'm not only going to miss speaker john boehner, but i'm going to miss when he leave next year the congress that john boehner loved and i have loved so much. if republicans think that they had a problem with john boehner, they should have known jack kemp. because it was jack kemp that introduced -- introduced me to boehner. at that time we acknowledged that there were democrats and republicans, but the whole idea that you could be vind

things about john boehner. i find it uncynically endearing and human about him. i empathize with him because i too am an uncontrollable public cryer. but in terms of how we got to today's tidal wave of chaos in washington, john boehner crying repeatedly and uncontrollably in the presence of pope francis this month ends up being an important part of the story. we'll never know for sure. mr. boehner has given sort of conflicting answers about it. but john boehner apparently was so moved by the visit of pope francis to the capitol this past month that he decided literally right as pope francis was leaving washington, d.c., he says he decided that if he was ever going to get out of this freaking job it was going to be right then. no time like the present, right now. let's do it. and so in fact the day after pope francis left washington, d.c. and john boehner spent that entire day crying in public in the presence of the pope, the very next day john boehner surprised everybody and he quit. he quit one of the most pow

boehner.fter that, nancy pelosi on problems in congress, and the importance of women in politics. on monday, education secretary arne duncan participated in a pound discussion on improving the effectiveness of standardized testing. panelists analyzed data from a new report. this is just over one hour. hour. >> i am the executive director and i want to thank you very much for being here this monday morning. we are going to go ahead and get started because i am sorry to say i can say that we will begin wrapping up this conference at about 10:30 p.m. we have been asked to meet with the president on this report at 11:00 o'clock. so we will have to end early here so we can get over there in time. we will end this and look around at 10:30 p.m. i apologize for that. i would also like to thank our panelists in our moderator for being here today and we will introduce everybody shortly. it looks like the last two are coming in now. i want to thank the research council. they include ray hart, amanda corc

that is what drove john boehner out.ving to deal with that time and again, every time one of these deadlines came up, the house freedom caucus would say, well, we will give you -- we will only keep the government open if you give us x, and x was some demand that he could not meet. he got tired of that. he also got tired of the threat of we keep talking about the motion to vacate the chair. so that threat is all off the table through the 2016 election for paul ryan. it's very interesting, he's going to have opportunities there that john boehner never had. the other thing that i'm thinking of, though, it's interesting, you're mentioning in talking about the history of bob michael and newt gingrich and john boehner, the story of john boehner in his congressional career is the story of the evolution of the modern republican party. he was the troublemaker when he started. a generation ago in 1990, it was john boehner was part of a group with newt gingrich that said the republican leadership is too cozy with democrats. they ar

boehner. speaker boehner and i, as some would note, do not always agree. we've been on opposite sides on this floor and opposite sides of debate many times. however, that is behind us for john boehner. in all the years i served with him, speaker boehner has shown me the same kindness, grace and friendship that he's shown so many of this house, its colleagues on both sides of the aisle. john boehner is a gentleman in the truest sense of the word and a leader who, even in the act of stepping back from his position in the leadership, has always put the best interest of our country first. when it came time to make difficult decisions, even in the face of strong opposition from some in his own party, speaker boehner was willing to work across the aisle to make sure that this house was achieving its most fundamental responsibilities to those we have the honor of serving. we did not have a default in our debt at least twice in large part because of john boehner's determination not to let it happen. m

>> how would i grade john boehner question mike i hesitate to grade john boehner to the extent that he is still speaker. we see in history that sometimes speakers save their biggest or most amazing accomplishment for the end of their tenure. we still have some time to play out. i would say this about john boehner, back in the early 1930s , we had a democrat from texas and he once said that speakership is the hardest job in washington. i think that pretty much sums up the experience of john boehner. imagine how much has changed since the 1930s since the job has gotten exponentially more difficult. they now have to deal with huge amount of campaign funding and groups that are funding against members of your party, the 24 hours news cycle and all of these tremendous pressure on the speaker. i think john boehner has challenges to his speakership. when used couple that with some of the more, shall we say independent-minded members of the party right now in the house representatives, it makes it harder for him to count on the party loyalty that's necessary to enact legislation, especially wh

boehner was speaking truthfully. there's also a way in which it is part of the job of a speaker to try to -- i think his office in the leadership tried to educate members, if we follow path a, this is going to be very harmful to our party and also harmful to the country and so forth. if we take path b it'll beless harmful, we won't get everything we want, if we take path a, we almost certainly going to get what we want and we are going to make ourselves the party and congress look bad. it was -- i'm not saying that it would have been easy to accomplish that or other speakers or members of congress could have done a better job, but i think that was what was missing from the equation and led to government shutdown last winter, the difficulty of boehner and the leadership team whether it was inability or not possible situation to get them to understand that in the direction that they were wanting to go was problematic. the minority party in the house of representatives, now if boehner had been able to get votes with dem

speaker boehner: i feel very confident. the mobilization on the right against corrupt -- paul ryan, he's just another mccarthy or another john boehner. how does that fit with you? [laughter] speaker boehner: i've got pretty thick skin. we all know paul ryan. he is a very good member. he works hard, he is very bright, he has a good relationship with all the wings of the party. i think he will do fine. >> about the fundraising aspect of the job. he wants to spend more time with the family. what is your sense about whether the job can actually be restructured so that he's not the main fundraiser? speaker boehner: i think there is a way to do that. i have outlined over the last week, the late paul could do this differently than the way i did it. >> what way would that be? speaker boehner: we can let him decide. >> when you look at back at your time, what message if any do you have to the house freedom caucus after they united against and the same with mr. mccarthy. what happens now as you consider running against paul ryan? spe

speaker boehner: mr.peaker, i ask unanimous consent to speak out of order for one minute. >> without objection. [laughter] [applause] speaker boehner: alright, alright. thank you. speaker, i rise today to inform you that i will resign as speaker of the house, effective upon the election of my successor. i will also resign as the revisited if from ohio's eighth district at the end of this month. -- as the revisited if of -- representative of ohio's eighth district. i leave no burdens. just a regular guy humbled by the chance to do a big job. that is what i am most proud of. i am still just me. the same guy who came here 25 years ago, a small businessman. yearsent all these 25 trying to just be me. sometimes my staff thought i was sometimes too much like me. but it really is the thing i'm most proud of, the same regular guy that came here to do a good job my district and my country. express go, i want to what an honor it has been to serve for both of you. the people's house is, in my view, the great embodim

>> john boehner put out a statement.at this point it seems he has to stay on until it gets resolved whenever that may be and that's pretty much his statement. he said i'll quote here, it's short, after leader mccarthy's announcement, members of the republican house conference will not vote today for a new speaker. as i said previously, i will serve as speaker until the house votes for a new speaker. we'll announce at a later date and i'm confident we'll elect a speaker in the coming weeks. >> this is brilliant, perfectly brilliant, john boehner's plan. >> he's got to be sitting back home, neil, just watching in and you know, i mentioned how he went on and sang my, oh, my, what a wonderful day, john boehner. neil: with us is congressman clawson, a republican, and webster, of course, is trying to get this job. congressman what do you see in your colleague webster trying to get this job. >> first of all, thank you for having me on, neil, i can't believe i'm talking to you. >> i think it would be great-- >> no, i never expec

the freedom caucus and pushed and boehner caved. he is supposed to out of congress at the end of the month put speaker boehner says he will stay on until the house elects his replacement. something must change. one side of the other must give in or neither that nor anything else will get done. nothing. there are very important matters ahead for those we elected to represent us. next month the government's authorized to borrow money ended. the government will default. risk can change chase. then in december the stop-gap spending bill runs out. unless congress acts our government will shut done.s of m conference want nomy compromise. without one, disarray. a level of government dysfunction he highest in history. today the mid-session move, the first to orderly transition from one run leader to the next to choose the person second in line for the presidency of the united states and right now, stalemate. washington has officially ground to a halt. just as the freedom caucus demands. mike emanuel is on capitol hill. what happened? >> jas

so to that extent boehner was speaking truthly. he but there is also a way in which it is part of the job of speaker to try to -- i think his office and the leadership detroit to educate members and explain, look, if we follow path a., this is going to be very harmful to our party. and also harmful to the country and so forth. i if with take path b., less harmful. won't get what we want necessarily, everything we want if we take path b. we take path a., we almost certainly aren't going to bet what we want and make ourselves the party and congress look bad. it -- not saying it would be easy to accomplish that or other members of congress could have done a better job but that is what was missing from the equation and what led to so much of the conflict, the government shutdown last winter, was the difficulty of boehner and the leadership team, whether it was inability for just not a possible situation to get members to understand that the direction that many of them wanted to go would problematic. and one other thing, which is the mi

house speaker john boehner abruptly resigning from congress. >> the new comes a day after boehner, a devout catholic welcomed the pope to the u.s. capitol. >> trevor: no! why leave now? i just got here. (laughter) i've got a fancy suit and a new set. i learned how to pronounce your name." bay-ner ". (applause) now i know this wasn't the biggest news of the weekend. there was huge news out there, blood-red moon, the tragic fetty wap didn't, hashtag pray for fetty and of course the mets made the play-offs. (cheers and applause) yeah. i don't know what that is, but jon told me it would work. now to understand why boehner leave saying big deal, you have to understand what a big deal boehner was. >> the speaker controls the floor of the house. and you can't bring anything up without really his say-so. >> trevor: that's right. you cannot make a law in america without the speaker's approval, boehner has final say about which laws come in and which laws don't. he's basically the bouncer at club congress. (laughter) which is probably the worst club ever. i mean, first of all, there's hardly a

thank you to john boehner's staff. i know i speak for everyone here, democrats and republicans, when i thank you for making the visit of his holiness, pope francis, such a beautiful and meaningful xperience for all of us. today we extend our thanks and congratulations to debi, your daughters lindsay and trisha, and the entire boehner family, now including grandson. let's hear it for the family of ohn boehner. ebb behalf of house democrats and personally, i wish you and your family all of god's blessings in the glorious years ahead. last month we witnessed something truly special when pope francis made history addressing a joint session of congress. standing right here pope francis called on us to speak hope, peace, and dialogue for all people. and reminded us of our duties to find a way forward for everyone. a good political leader his holiness said, is one who with the interest of all in mind seizes the moment in a spirit of openness and pragmatism. with that -- with the interest in mind of all. pope francis echoed th

boehner was speaker, obviously. so thank you. host: some shared views on twitter there. this is joshua tweets, paul ryan is just john boehner 2.0. this is why we must fire paul ryan and join the coalition. getting a sense there may be some announcement. let's listen in and watch here live from capitol hill here on c-span. >> we're seeing some news. scott wong of "the hill" tweets, breaking, paul ryan romps daniel webster 200-43 in internal g.o.p. election for speaker of the house. jake sherman confirming that. paul ryan wins. the wisconsin republican is the party's nominee for house speaker. floor vote expected tomorrow. looks like members are leaving that. trey gowdy leaving. we'll stay live on capitol hill for reaction. >> news that paul ryan won the republican conference vote for speaker of the house. according to jake sherman of "politico," paul ryan 200, daniel webster 43. marsha blackburn gets one and kevin mccarthy, the current majority leader, gets one. 202-748-2881 for republicans. 202-748-8921 for republic

and hard liners saying look, we didn't push to get rid of boehner to get a boehner 2.0. they want someone more effective. someone said to me. there is two kinds of speaker, a hard line type guy who cracks the whip and get the vote. or intellectual. like tom delay. majority leader and not speaker. and that's what he served and a intellectual and someone like newt gingrich. there is a feeling among the conservatives that boehner and mccarthy didn't fit in those roles and they want someone who will bring them together and get the votes and someone who will fight the fight have try to persuade republican conservative voters. we are trying hard as we can to win the argument even if the president has the veto in the senate. >> it is interesting that you don't have to be elected law maker to serve. gretta van has been voted and chris you are not mentioned yet. but a name that comes up is mitt romney. newt gingrich often comes up. but again, because we are unchartered waters do you think that it would be a outsider because you know, kevin mccarthy said they want a new face and t

and boehner sticks around and maybe boehner says i'll do it through 2016. i postponed my retirement because of a surprising loss for eric cantor maybe i could postpone my retirement one more time. >> for people who are just tuning in doern't pay attentiono capitol hill, why would paul ryan be a uniter? >> i mean, during the obama years, he was the point man when it came to the budget for republicans. he put out the alternative budget for republicans year after year. a very conservative budget that went after attacking the size and scope of government. in line with the tea party economic sensibility. paul ryan was sort of seen as a youthful face of an anti-obama conservatism. he was very attractive to the base of the party when mitromney put him on the ticket in 2012. he's somebody who i think because of the work he's done on the budget and personal relationships would have a lot of trust on the right that's not internation there with john boehner. >> luke russert are you still with us? >> yeah. >> anybody further from your perch? anybody talking about the r

thank you to john boehner's staff. and i know i speak for everyone here, democrats and republicans, when i thank you for making the visit of his holiness pope francis such a beautiful and meaningful experience for all of us. [ applause ] today we extend our thanks and congratulations to debbie, your daughters lindsey and tricia and the entire boehner family, now including grandson alister. let's hear it for the family of john boehner. [ applause ] on behalf of house democrats and personally, i wish you and your family all of god's blessings in the glorious years ahead. last month, we witnessed something truly special when pope francis made history addressing a joint session of congress. standing right here, pope francis called on us to seek hope, peace and dialogue for all people. and reminded us of our duty to find a way forward for everyone. a good political leader, his holiness said, is one who with the interest of all in mind, seizes the moment in a spirit of openness and pragmatism. with the interest in mind of al

this one turning leader boehner into speaker boehner. >> washington has been doing what is best for washington not what's best for the american people. and tonight that begins to change. >> now he was the establishment insider forced to deal with a new army of trouble makers, the tea party republicans. >> can you say it was done openly? with transparency and accountability? without back room deals and struck behind closed doors hidden from the people? hell no you can't. >> they never trusted him. they never believed. they defied him, embarrassed him. >> are you kidding me? until finally he had enough. >> i leave with no regrets, no burdens. >> boehner not just stepping down as speaker but also from his house seat and there will be a special election back in ohio to find someone to fill that house seat. still ahead the student teaches the teacher. marco rubio and his former mentor jeb bush seat. still ahead, the student teaches the teacher. marco rubio and his former mentor jeb bush head to head in last night's debate. did rubio help close theed with on bush's candidacy. stay with us. if you ha

john boehner could hang on longer. the debt limit, debt ceiling limit as you pointed out. the walter jones letter you pointed to, i first heard about it last night on rachel maddow's show. he put out a letter that was really shocking to everyone saying if anyone who is running for speaker has anything in their past and he himself cited the example of newt gingrich and bob livingston, both of whom stepped down under pressure. bob livingston after only a day or so when he was replacing newt gingrich, saying if anyone has a skeleton in their closet, even referring to card gyames or things that happen after 5:00. no one knew what he was alluding to but it certainly set off a lot of gossip. we don't know if that's the case here or if that was the case about someone else who was potentially in the race. who are the other candidates besides chaffetz who might have been going up? of course the majority leader candidates, that's the separate race that was to follow. that was pretty much a brawl. >> reporter: so the only declare

i happen to admire and like john boehner.m not familiar enough with the inner dynamics except that i wish that after they choose a leader we could sit down on both sides of the capital and come up with a strategy to win. >> that would be nice. i think that's step two or three or four on this 12-step program. always a pleasure. thanks for coming on. >> we will be back tomorrow because if it is friday it is more mtp daily. erica hill picks up our coverage. >> right now on msnbc, breaking news, a house divided. kevin mccarthy, the front runner to lead house republicans pulls out of the race for speaker. hero attacked. one of the men who helped stop a terror attack on a paris train is fighting for his life after being stabbed. >>> and the controversial tweet from robert murdoch about ben carson and president obama. we begin with that breaking news in congress. house majority leader kevin mccarthy dropping out of the race to replace john boehner as

what john boehner said heap was sent to washington to do.e wants to accomplish a no compromise position, shut down the government if necessary, get people who are angry about to sense that they are doing something about it. >> the rights might. this time on the programme, let's begin with david shuster in new york, and from capitol hill, al jazeera's michael shure. you were on the hill this morning, was there a precipitating event that happened in the caucus that gave a symbol. >> it was a confluence of a lot much things, whether they get 200 on the full congress, the calculations from that he could not. some, kevin mccarthy saying that benghazi was a political ploy, you know, without using those words, a political committee, so as to get hillary clinton off of her wheels a little bit. it came down to the fact that there was a faction of the house that david talked about, the freedom caucus and other members that didn't want to vote for kevin mccarthy, because it would have been the same, they wanted conservativism in there and he didn't hav

they were angry boehner cut a deal. they were angry with boehner with some of the other deals. it's the same thing in the senate and why mitch mcconnell faced a possible primary challenge. some figures on the right felt he was too accommodating, even though you have the democrats in the white house saying, this is crazy. they wouldn't deal with us at all. the other thing to keep in mind, randall, is 30 or 40 conservatives who say shut down the government. we don't care if anything gets done, their in safe districts. they have campaigned repeatedly. they have total support. their constituents have made it clear they don't care if washington gets anything done. they just want these republicans to cause disruption, and that is certainly what they've done. >> are any of those members of the 30 from south carolina? >> there are some members from south carolina. in fact, two of them maid a crucial role in ousting boehner. >> here's what i'm wondering. you look at tee construction caused by mother nature in south carolina and the need for billions of dollars in federal funds. this is

we still have john boehner with the speaker's gavel in his hand. these are two individual decisions that we have of the speakers to step down and kevin is to step aside. the republican conference is yet to speak on who the new leadership will be. work is getting done. the debates are continuing as htous mov the house moves. >> kevin mccarthy seemed to go into this closed door meeting confident he report asked how he's feeling and he said great. the stunning news came he wanted a fresh face. who would the fresh face be? >> i don't know. i support kevin. i think he will be a strong leader in the house. it's unfortunate he made this decision. there has yet to be a vote on who will be the next speaker. we know that candidates will be jockeying and coming forward and debating issues that are important. people can look at the house and see we still have a speaker. now we'll need to pick our next speaker. >> i couldn't have said it much better. this committee was only created for one person, to find the truth on behalf of the family for the four dead amer

we are seeing with john boehner that a lot of conservative republicans aren't happy with boehner andre voicing their opinions about who the next speaker should be. this is unusual in our history since in the past it was dealt with within the house. the closest analogy is the mid-19th century on the issue of slavery. it was so important that members of congress went public and said they did not want this person because of provisions on slavery and that is not a good model to follow because there were serious deadlocks in the house over the balloting for the next speaker. i do not know how to solve the problem but it adds a layer of complexity to the process of choosing. host: in the post-world war ii era, have they been changes in the way the speaker seven elected? has it always been secret ballot? guest: same process, so each party chooses their nominator secret ballot and the present their nominee to the floor. every member is called in our political order and says their vote is for speaker. host: there is this from james who says -- have they been changes in the speaker's post cong

i would say this about speaker boehner. back in the early set 30s we had a speaker named john nance gardner, vice president under fdr. he once said that speakership is the hardest job in washington. and i think that pretty much sums up the experience of john boehner. imagine how much has changed since the 1930s when john nance pa garner was saying, if anything the job has gotten more difficult now. speakers have to deal with huge amounts of campaign funding, independent groups funding sometimes primary challenges against members of your party, you have a 24-hour news cycle, a plethora of interest groups, putting tremendous pressure on the job of speaker to try to get things done without making too many people angry. i think that boehner certainly has -- those are challenges to his speakership. then couple that with some of the more, shall we say, independent-minded members of his party right now in the house 0 of representatives that make it harder for them count on the party loyalty necessary to enact legislation especiall

boehner saying he's not retiring. boehner says he's going to stay on as speaker until someone wins 218 votes. so suddenly the rank-and-file republicans have revolted against their domineering oppressive leaders, most of whom serve the agendas of the corporate and establishment elite. the question now is who wins? will k street have its way as usual in congress? or the rank and file in conservatives prevail against the moneyed interest of k street. the scramble is on. fox news chief correspondent mike emanuel with our report. >> i thi i shocked some of you. >> reporter: after being the odds on favorite to be the republican nominee for speaker, house majority leader kevin mccarthy stunned colleagues by announcing behind closed doors he's not the guy for the job. >> something to be said for us to unite, we need a fresh face. i'll stay onas majority leader but the one thing i found talking to everybody, if we are going tour, night and be strong, we need a new face to help do that, so nothing more than that. >> reporter: h

i said before john boehner stepped down that the same people who are trying to take down john boehnerere going to try to frag the next guy. that is what happened today. let's be honest about it. he was taken down by some of his own members. that's exactly what happened. we need to move forward. that is the reality of what happened. i want to follow up on one thing. i heard my colleague from kansas mention about conservatism. some people are trying to redefine conservatism. where i grew up and you grew up my idea of conservatism means things like order, control, stability, certainty, temperance, not anarchy, chaos. i think we need to get back to this. those of us who are more traditional have to reclaim the party and start talking about these issues. nobody wants to shut the government down. they don't want the country to default. >> you say nobody. if you are living out in idaho or utah or places like that where you have to vote for speaker or the person's name they were unwilling to say the name out loud on c-span. mccarthy. so they are afraid to put their name to someone else's name

the expiration date on john boehner.hey need to figure it out by then. >> releasing a statement saying he will stay on the job until a new person is elected. somebody gets 218 points. now we are starting from scratch. some people are talking about maybe a senior statesman. a caretaker through the 2016 election. a new congress. all options need to be on the table at this point. they are hoping that the colleagues will give them a closer look. >> thank you so much. continue staying on this story. boone pickens has been a strong supporter of the gop for decades. i will ask him what he makes on this shocking news. right after this. ♪ we're cracking down on medicare fraud. the health care law gives us powerful tools to fight it. to investigate it. prosecute it. and stop criminals. our senior medicare patrol volunteers are teaching seniors across the country to stop, spot and report fraud. you can help. guard your medicare card. don't give out your card number over the phone. call to report any suspected fraud. we're cracking

that was the threat hanging over john boehner.t would have required another vote, sort of like a vote of confidence. and that is politically untenable. ryan's team says that's basically having a weapon pointed at the head of the speaker at all times on every issue. he wants to see that changed. but that's what gives that group of three dozen or so most conservative members their power. if they don't get what they want, if they don't feel like they're being heard, they can threaten to push the speaker out. that's been a powerful tool, certainly over john boehner. and that could be one of the issues that we'll need to see could they agree to that. so far, the early kind of comments from some of those freedom caucus members have been doubtful about whether they would go along with the vision that paul ryan has for a speakership, if he were to get in the race. not yet in officially. josÉ. >> luke, what is the vision paul ryan has if he does take this job? what are his priorities, and is there anybody on capitol hill that could unite t

of course boehner won, but webster came in second.sumably they are going to find a candidate who unifies the party, that in my estimation will likely not be daniel webster. jason chapits also has his hat in the ring. congressmen and representatives from every faction of that cause -- caucus are going to try to get together from here. the timetable that the house is working under right now is the resignation of john boehner. he is set to leave his post on october 30th. we have said it before, if they are unable to come up with a candidate and speaker that is viable before the whole house when the elections are to be held, speaker boehner is going to remain speaker. that's not something he wants or the caucus wants, so they'll try to find a consensus pick. >> the speaker does not have to be a member of the house to be the speaker. boehner could theoretically resign from his seat and still be speaker. >> reporter: that's exactly right. randall pinkston could be the speaker of the house. there's nothing to say it has to be that way. but y

this is boehner 2.0. he realized he had a tough sledding ahead if he took the job. >> your prediction, dead wrong. you told me he would not make it. all eyes have to turn on paul ryan right now. i know paul doesn't want to do it. there are a thousand reasons he doesn't want to do it. these are one of those moments, i don't want to be melodramatic talking about a man or woman having to step up. this is a unique time and place for a republican party that's lost five of the last six presidential elections in the popular vote. they are back on their heels right now, losing a presidency in 2016 because of chaos on the hill and a close election that could happen, could be devastating. i don't think paul ryan has any choice if he cares about the conservative movement, the republican party and the future of this country as he sees it, but to jump in the race and run. how does he stay away? >> he has the job he wants. it means flying to florida and other places. it's not the job that paul ryan wants. if trying to

john boehner talked about the american dream. you are the personification of the american dream, john boehner. [ applause ] >> as you all know speaker boehner was a formidable spokesman for the republican agenda. my republican colleagues, i'm sure you know and i can attest to the fact that he was always true and loyal to the members of his caucus in any negotiations we ever had. although we had our differences and often, i always respected his dedication to this house and his commitment to his values. thank you, john, for your leadership and courage as speaker. your graciousness as speaker extended and was reflected in your staff under the leadership of mike summers whom we all respect. thank you to john boehner. >> i know i speak for everyone here, democrats and republicans, when i thank you for making the visit of his holyness, pope francis, such a beautiful and meaningful experience for all of us. >> we extend our thanks and gratitude to your entire boehner family, now including grandson allestair. let's hear it for the family

i don't see a scenario where boehner stays on. i think he stepped down to clear the deck and was coming to the end and knew he was going. so i think there will be leadership changes. i don't think it will go on like this forever. i am continuing to repufb /* mumove we didn't know mccarthy was going to drop out. i hear the la language but if hs asked to come in will he? >> "the new york times" said this is a thankless job. he is buying time on the ways and means committee because he wants to run for president in a not-so-crowded field. >> how did we get to the point where this is a not-so-great job? >> it is how the location breck and how the leadership is deep dealing with big issues. there is a sense they are not pushing as hard as they can on big issues. people who went the lawmakers to washington believe they should be standing up and fighting on something. does that mean pushing up to a fiscal cliff and government shutdown? i don't know. but they want to see a fight in the caucus. that is the message from voters. people are sa

here is john boehner's final address.applause] >> the chair appoints the following committee to escort the speaker-elect to the chair. gentleman from california, mr. mccarthy. gentle woman from california, miss pelosi. the gentleman from louisiana, mr. scalise. the gentleman from maryland, mr. hower. the gentlewoman from washington state miss mcmorris rogers. gentleman from south carolina, mr. clyburn. the gentleman from oregon. the gentleman from california, mr. becerra. gentleman from indan that, mr. besser. gent man from new york, mr. crowley. gentle woman from kansas miss jenkins. gentleman from new york, mr. israel. gentle woman from north carolina, miss fox. gentleman from mexico, mr. ray luhan. gent woman from missouri miss wagner. gentle woman miss delauro. gent plan from texas mr. sessions. gentleman from maryland, mr. van hollen. gentleman from north carolina, mr. mchenry and members of the wisconsin delegation. mr. sensenbrenner, mr. kind, miss moore, mr. duffy, mr. ribble, mr.-- california, miss mimi walters.

speaker boehner, outgoing speaker boehner is going ahead with an appearance on the "tonight show with jimmy fallon" in this very building. we're in that strange circumstance where we might get a fresh lead on this story after 11:35 tonight. >> you know, it's incredible to think that the consequence of this might be that john boehner is not allowed to quit, or that the conservatives who toppled him and toppled kevin mccarthy will not be allowed to fire him because the prospect of having to elect some sort of interim speaker or the prospect that steve and luke were describing that the house republicans might have to get votes from democrats in order to bring on some sort of bipartisan approved speaker, that's going to be so unappealing to house republicans that i can't see any other immediate outcome than them just keeping john boehner on. so that is going to be remarkable to see that, to see a late night comedy show making that kind of news tonight. i will say, one sort of big picture piece of this really sticks out for me. and that was that it was -- there is something unusual about t

john: he is an intellectual, john boehner wasn't.ark: he would like for the good of his legacy to get these problems done. if john boehner says to ryan and conservatives, "you think ryan is the one that can save you? you have got to keep these problems from stopping the speakership." john: if i were ryan, this caretaker speaker thing floated on other fronts -- i don't really see what the upside is for that job. you either accept it or desire it, you should want it for the long run. mark: frankly, why would the house conference want an outsider as a speaker? the constitution is clear you don't have to be a member of the house. but they don't want a short timer. why would they want someone like nancy pelosi? it's a fantasy. you hear democrats and liberals say this is a way to do it in a bipartisan way. no, the republicans want a conservative speaker. john: the case for newt gingrich remains strong. mark: the two things we discussed -- why did he leave and what happens next? there are no clear answers. there is a meeting tomorrow to try

host: how would you grade boehner? mr. green: how would i grade john boehner? i hesitate to grade john boehner to the extent he's still speaker. we see in history that sometimes speakers save their biggest and most amazing accomplishments for the end of their tenure. so we still have -- i think the jury is still out. i would say about speaker boehner, back in the 1930's, we had a speaker named john garner, a democrat from texas and became vbs under f.d.r. he once said speakership is the hardest job in washington. and i think that that pretty much sums up the experience of john boehner. imagine how much has changed since the 1930's when garner was saying this. if anything the job has gotten exponentially more difficult. where now speakers have to deal with huge amounts of campaign funding, independent groups that arep funding, sometimes primary challenges against members of your party. you have a 24-hour news cycle. you have a plethora of interest groups. all these things are putting tremendous pressure on the job of speaker to try to get things done. without ma

john boehner, you are the personification of the american dream. >> as you all know, speaker boehner was a formidable spokesman for the republican agenda. my republican colleagues, i'm sure you know i can attest to the fact that he was always true and loyal to the members of his caucus in any negotiations we ever had. although we had our differences and often, i always respected his dedication to this house and his commitment to his values. thank you, john, for your leadership and courage as speaker. your graciousness as speaker extended and was reflected in your staff under the leadership of mike summers, whom we all respect. thank you to john boehner. >> i know i speak for everyone here, democrats and republicans, when i thank you for making the visit of his holiness, pope francis, such a beautiful and meaningful experience for all of us. we extend our thanks and congratulations to debbie, your daughters, lindsey and trisha, and the entire boehner family, including grandson, alisster. let's hear it for the family of john boehner! >> thank you. >> on behalf of house democrats and pe