and i'm joined by peter boehringer, a member of the deutsche bundestag and a vice chairman of the afd, you are loathed by the political establishment in germany . there establishment in germany. there are 1 or 2 of your members who have made comments that might be unwise, but what have you done to deserve the threat of being banned ? banned? >> well , first of all, thank >> well, first of all, thank you, nigel, for having us having me tonight . we have met 1 or me tonight. we have met 1 or 2 times in berlin and in brussels , but you wouldn't remember. so well, what have we done ? well, well, what have we done? well, well, what have we done? well, we have been following a very legal and democratic program for ten years now , and nothing wrong ten years now, and nothing wrong with that. if it were wrong or even extreme , then parties like even extreme, then parties like the christian democrats or the liberal democrats some 30 years ago would have been extremely themselves because it's not so much different. what we would like to do and where we would like to do and where we would like t