lindy boggs.he had been elected, at first she had been elected to the seat that her husband phil burton had held after his death. she was dying of cancer. she was friends of nancy pelosi. she called nancy pelosi when she was very close to death and set that she hoped she would run for seat and that sally burton would endorse or. which was a huge gift, given she was the incumbent and all the democrats would want to run for this seat in san francisco. that was what nancy pelosi -- nancy pelosi told me she would've never thought about running without her delivering that message. it seems funny, because she seems like such a natural pol in some ways, she's from a political family. but she said it had never crossed her mind until she encouraged her to run. she ran in a wild race in san prisco. 14 candidates in this big, sprawling primary. one narrowly over a hairy brit. since then is not won. host: what was the house like when she arrived? guest: the house was overwhelmingly male. it was not so differe

but in golsby's case, boggs says ohio's department of rehabilitation and correction, or drc, told herhim, but they didn't have any exclusionary zones affiliated with that monitor, they didn't have any curfews affiliated with that monitor. >> so, no geographic restrictions and no -- no curfew programmed into it. what is the point of it? >> exactly. >> is part of it supposed to be a deterrent of some kind? >> i think drc believed that placing a gps monitor on him would curtail his criminal activity but it didn't. >> the reality is nobody is monitoring him electronically, not in real time. >> martin horn, the former commissioner of probation for new york city and a critic of gps monitors is not surprised by any of this. is this a false sense of security? >> oh, absolutely. it is not an electronic tether. all it is, is something that, after the fact, will either tell me where you were or where you weren't. and even then, it is not foolproof. >> it's a great monday-morning quarterback tool. >> yeah, and it's, also, i think, a tremendous liability for the government agencies that use them.

there was a moment in october of 1964 when liz and lindy boggs, a very important part of this story marriedo a congressman from louisiana, go to the south and they organized with lady bird and fort lady bird -- four -- for lady bird. it is liz carpenter generating press material, and helping with the speeches, and partnering with lady bird on the essential objective of trying to send the message to the south that the democratic party and its commitment to civil rights is something southerners ought to embrace. host: as a special issue lady bird johnson is identified most with beautification. in the final pages you have for lamenting as she calls them lyndon's boys managed to use the title of beautification to somehow diminish the overall impact of the work. what was her program all about really? guest: beautification is a word she did not like because she thought it was pretty and a -- prissy and a euphemism at a bass when she was really about. she had an ambitious environmental vision, which going back to her early childhood was premised on the idea that human beings cannot be fully human