if you take ukrainian history there , the state of bohdan khmelnytsky and the cossack state was actually created by the army. by them it was created cossack layer and which not only took care of the military affairs, but which took care of education and culture and political life as well, we can actually take any country. this will also be germany, where for a very long time the existence of the state completely coincided with the existence of the army, this is great britain, where we can say that any political figure of great britain or any influential social figure was somehow connected with the british of the army, so this is exactly what mr. fedir was talking about in the use of experience veterans for the formation of ukrainian statehood, modern statehood, it will be simply invaluable and it will be a big mistake not to use it, mr. vasyl, then you can have one more question similar to the one we asked mr. fedor, how should society communicate, how should it promote and help veterans, because we understand that many of them will return, er, well, some will return , some will return,