confusing ordinance that is on caption tricks for people that receive public benefits such as a tax boimentsz, etc. prop j required the city officials to monitor to make sure the donors hadn't received as staff indicated prop j was repealed and proposition e waltz put into law the right side digest satdz it desolates prop j and that proposition e about accomplish goals by eliminating gifts and contributions but those provisions will be gnarling tailored to accomplish and in addition the ballot argument in favor state many of the ethics laws were out dated or confusing and not inadequately addressing the regulations so the ethics commission spent the last 11 months discussing this with the public and city officials and legal experts cross california proposition e is a result i urge you not reimpact any of the confusions of prop j. >> any other public comment all in favor of the motion. >> i. >> i. >> opposed the motion is passed turning to 5 which is environment as a penalty. >> commissioner. this proposal the idea is to add a penalty for violations of the campaign refinance ordinance for thos