close to the major football statium in the middle of what is buenos aires' equivalent of the bois de boulogne, the beautiful palermo gardens, is this horrific place where they practice mind control, where they try to... and where they systematically murdered people by taking them away after they had decided that they were going to kill them. there was no trial or anything like that. and they were taken off in planes or in helicopters, and they were doped, stripped, and thrown into the sea. >> hinojosa: so explain... take us for a second, robert, into argentina, you know, 1975, 1976, for example. what... everything looked normal, right? but... >> well, no, it wasn't normal. we could tell that things were building up. we actually published the numbers of deaths every so often on the front page. it was aware there was a kind of underground civil war going on. >> hinojosa: did people call it that, though? >> no, they didn't. >> hinojosa: these terms that, now that we can use, that you can use. >> you had a moment of enormous exhortation on the part of young people, and it was partly, you know, th