. >> host: what inspired you to write a book about bollenbach? >> guest: i did a column on glen beck at the beginning of this year and. i was aware of this phenomenon but didn't understand it. in the process of researching, came across a gallup poll that indicated people were asked to volunteers and name of the person they most admired, most influential of any living person in the world and glen beck came out ahead of the pope. not to mention every living former president, narrowly edged out by nelson mandela but only narrowly. i got to find out what this guy is all about. the fact of the matter is he is a radio guy with ten million listeners a week, has two million on fox news which is a huge but he is so much more than that. he is a movement leader. i am sure we were all on the 20 eighth of august, even if you weren't, you saw the pictures that you knew that this is clearly a man whose aspirations go beyond broadcasting to being a real movement leader. i call him the first true demagogue of the cable news here. >> host: that is how he differs f

that bollenbach and they send another crowd in the same thing happens. we know that is not true with. have to do something to stop this flow money. i thought about it a great deal and frankly, over the years, i have equivocated from time to time about what we need to do and there is no perfect answer to it. i think the best answer that i can think of is we need some form of public financing. when i say public financing, i mean that financing together with a limitation on the amount of donations. think how wonderful it would be if a congressman in a perfect world did not have to go out and raise all this money and feel obligated. when i raised money, i consider myself a very honest person and have never been accused of being otherwise, but i will tell you when somebody gave me a big check for my campaign or something or i solicited a donation, i will not tell you that i did not feel just a little, i wanted dirty, but not exactly what i had in mind for my future. i ended up having to spend too much time doing that. this past year, the supreme court ruling