moroccan and mother was from ball on your —— bologna.was trying to leave bologna for istanbul in march 2016. italian police stopped him from travelling. they say at that point he was put on a watchlist which should have been available to all the various authorities across europe including the uk authorities. and yet when the metropolitan police confirmed they knew youssef zaghba was one of the three men who carried out this attack on saturday and shot by their officers, they say he wasn't on a counterterrorism or m15 subject of interest. so there is possibly signs of a communication breakdown, or possibly despite the information from italy that youssef zaghba was trying to go to syria, he wasn't regarded as a serious enough concern that he became a subject of interest for the security services here. particularly difficult

today that british authorities had been tipped off about youssef zaghba, who lived at this house in bolognaes said he hoped to find a job in the uk. translation: he went to london, he was away for two or three months and then he came back, he was here for a month and then he told his mother, i'm leaving, he there is nothing and in london i can work. the fact it was a terror suspect in italy adds to the pressure on british security services to explain why they were called blind ahead of saturday's terrible attack, another member of the gang, khuram butt, was well—known to police and mi5, fronting searching questions as to whether more could or should have been done to prevent mass murder. we will look at how this, how the processes we re will look at how this, how the processes were followed, what they did. they will be wanting to look at that, they want to learn lessons for the future, if there are lessons to be learned. he appeared in this channel 4 be learned. he appeared in this channel a documentary. on radical islamist, last year, linking into extremist preacher anjem choudary, now inj

last year he was stopped by security forces at bologna airport, in italy, on suspicion of trying to makein syria — literature relating to so—called islamic state in his bag. placed on the italian terror watch—list, uk police today said neither they nor mi5 regarded him as a person of interest. in italy, a prosecutor claimed today that british authorities had been tipped off about zaghba, who lived at this house in bologna, one of his relatives said he hoped to find a job in the uk. translation: he went to london, he was away for two or three months and then he came back, he was here for a month and then he told his mother, i'm leaving, he there is nothing and in london i can work. the fact zaghba was a terror suspect in italy adds to the pressure on british security services to explain why they were called blind ahead of saturday's terrible attack, another member of the gang, khuram butt, was well—known to police and mi5, fronting to police and mi5, prompting searching questions as to whether more could or should have been done to prevent mass murder. we will look at how this, how the pr

but last year he was stopped by security forces at bologna airport, in italy, on suspicion of trying syria — literature relating to so—called islamic state in his bag. placed on the italian terror watch—list, uk police today said neither they nor mi5 regarded him as a person of interest. in italy, a prosecutor claimed today the british authorities had been tipped off about zaghba, who lived at this house in bologna. one of his relatives said he'd hoped to find a job in the uk. translation: he went to london, he was away for two or three months and then he came back. he was here for a month and then he told his mum, "i'm leaving, because here there's nothing and in london i can work." the fact that zaghba was a terror suspect in italy adds to the pressure on british security services to explain why they were caught blind ahead of saturday's terrible attack. another member of the gang, of course khuram butt, was well—known to police and mi5, prompting searching questions as to whether more could or should have been done to prevent mass murder. we will look at how this, how the processe

he lived in bologna for some time.tween london, where he was living here, and bologna in italy. italian journalists who have good security sources are confident that youssef zaghba was detained as he tried to leave italy on his way to sirja. —— syria. that was in 2016 and the same sources are telling the italian journal ichss that there was an informal contact with the british authorities to tell them what had happened, that youssef zaghba had tried to travel to syria. what the british authorities are saying is youssef zaghba was not a subject of interest, either for the youssef zaghba was not a subject of interest, eitherfor the police or the security service, m15. so the question that we will answered is why was he not a subject of interest? if this informal contact did not work, or was there an assessment made that he did not need to be made a subject of interest? that is the searching question that will arise out of the naming of the third of the men who carried out this attack on saturday. thank you. at 11 o'clock

he is youssef zaghba, a 1022 —year—old man from bologna. on the minute's silence at 11 o'clock. bong silence people across the united kingdom remembering the seven people who we re remembering the seven people who were killed and the 42 were injured, many of them still in hospital. in the last few minutes, we have had a statement from the family of one of of the seven who was killed here on saturday night, kirsty boden. this is what her family said this morning. kirsty was loved and adored by herfamily, morning. kirsty was loved and adored by her family, friends and boyfriend. she was the most kind and outgoing person, who loved to help people. she helped people in herjob asa people. she helped people in herjob as a nurse, as well as in her daily life. she ran towards danger to help people on the bridge, kirsty lost her life. we are so proud of her brave actions which demonstrate herself hoarse, killing and her work she was, not only on that night, but throughout her life. kirsty, we love you and will miss you dearly. the family of kirsty b

claimed today that british authorities had been tipped off about zaghba, who lived in this house in bologna. one of his relatives said he hoped to find a job in the u.k. >> he went to london. he was away for two or three months, then came back. t was here for a month, and he told his mum, "i'm leaving. in london i can work." reporter: the fact that he was a terror suspect in italy as to -- adds to the pressure on british security services to explain why they were caught blind by the saturday attack. another attacker, khuram butt, was well known to police and mi5, prompting questions about whether more should have been done to prevent mass murder. prime minister may: we will look at how the processes were followed, they will want to look at that because they will want to learn lessons for the future if there are those lessons to be learned. reporter: butt appeared in this channel 4 documentary on radical islamists last year, linking him to extremist preacher ahmed choudry, now in jail for support for islamic state. despite this, security says interest in him was scaled-down. the bbc has obta

. >> i come here because it is one of the best places in bologna for classic panzerotti.it is kind of funny, but where i'm from, panzerottis are less expensive than they are here. that is because we eat so many of them. it is one of our favorite dishes. >> panzerottis cost 2 euros 50 apiece here. enjoy. >> once again, it's me to get to know some of the people out there who are committed to protecting the climate and environment. climate change and overfishing are destroying ecosystems in the oceans and the livelihoods of people who depend on them. our reporter bastian hartig took a trip to the philippines to talk with some of the fishermen who can no longer live from what the sea provides. they're facing threats on several different fronts. >> by the time the sun rises over the bay of pandan, louie salido has been out on the water for hours. he's caught some squid to use as a bait to fish for tuna. but his chances of success aren't great. there are very few tuna left in the bay. commercial fishing fleets have exhausted stocks off the coast of pandan. >> it's very hard. >>

in the small italian village of fagnano near bologna, where members of his family still live, his mother of muslims. i would say to him, you don‘t have to react that way. if you go on facebook, there are lots of people who condemn these acts of violence, but don‘t act. unconfirmed reports said that youssef zaghba was flagged, or authorities were alerted, when he arrived at stansted airport earlier this year. but he was allowed to enter the uk, despite a continental wide alert from italian police after they had previously stopped him from travelling to syria. and he reportedly told them, he was going to be a terrorist. similar concerns have already been raised about his accomplice, khurram butt. he was known to the police and had featured in a tv documentary about radical islam. 0ne seniorformer cross—party adviser on security issues told the bbc, that lives could have been saved had khurram butt been put under much closer supervision. khurram butt should have been subject to something like a control order. if he had been under a control order, he would not have done what he did and proba

. >> he is infuriated, and legitimately, in my judgment, by this whole russian bologna. >> now, newt gingrich and the president would like us to shut it down before it really is under way. and we are far closer to the beginning of the investigation than we are to the end. >> reporter: the president's lawyer, making the rounds today, was at pains to correct the record about a presidential tweet that appeared to confirm he's facing an obstruction of justice investigation after his decision to fire fbi director james comey. >> the president is not and has not been under investigation. >> how do you know? >> because we've received no notice of investigation. >> reporter: and yet trump's own tweet would seem to suggest otherwise. quote, "i am being investigated for firing the fbi director by the man who told me to fire the fbi director. witch hunt." today, trump's lawyer appeared to be unable to clear up the confusion. >> and now he's being investigated by the department of justice. >> you've now said that he is being investigated after saying that you didn't. >> no. >> you just said, sir

but last year, he was stopped by security forces at bologna airport in italy on suspicion of trying toake his way to bite in syria. literature related to some extent was in his bag. a sunny italian terra watchlist, uk police today said that neither they ignored mi5 regarded him asa neither they ignored mi5 regarded him as a person of interest. —— he was placed on the italian terra wrought watchlist. —— mandatory. one of his relatives said he had to find work in the uk. he went to london. he was away for two or three months then came back. he told his parents that he was not coming back because there was work in london, but nothing in italy. the fact that he was flagged in italy put additional pressure on uk authorities to explain why it they did not know of the man. khuram butt was well known to police and mi5, romping searching questions as to whether more should oi’ questions as to whether more should or could have been done to prevent mass murder. we will look at how the processors we re mass murder. we will look at how the processors were followed and what they did. they will be wa

[laughter] a pile of bologna. [laughter]

image and i'm glad to see by the elections last night that the american people aren't falling for the bologna they're being fed. so was that a good bill, the tsunami bill? i think it was and it's made it through. we have other environmentally aimed bills that are making up for the exses -- excesses of the last administration, who was basically pushing a radical, a radical environmental globalist approach to environmental issues. and i think it's a great thing that the president of the united states has withdrawn us from the paris agreement, which would have cost us billions of dollars that we would send to other countries. and would put us under the jurisdiction of decisions made by international bodies. not by american elected officials. but by international bodies. that was a terrific move on the part of the president. in fact, trump has done a number of wonderful things that he's not getting credit for. people are -- because all the media wants to talk about is how many conversations anybody associated with trump had with any russians in the last two years. sorry. a lot of other things are

zaghba was stopped at bologna airport last year on suspicion of heading to syria.say they are fearing the worst. she's one of those people that doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, doesn't do anything wrong. she's amazing and she's 21 years of age. french media have also confirmed the death of sebastien boulanger, a borough market restaurant waiter from normandy. sebastien boulanger‘s family are travelling to the uk from france to find out what's happened to the chef. desperate searches and desperate days for so many who found themselves caught up in this tragedy. and one update for you. in the early hours of this morning detectives investigating the london attack have arrested a 30—year—old man on suspicion of terror offences in ilford, east london. prince harry paid tribute to the victims and survivors of the london terror attack as he marked 100 days until the next invictus games in australia. the prince who is patron of the sporting event offered his condolences to the families of the australian victims. i would like to start by sending my thoughts to those affecte

inmates who hold jobs get two days off their sentence for every day worked and occasionally an extra bolognal i got two more weeks to go, and then i can actually go to del taco. it will be wonderful. >>> coming up -- >> i have to wait for that part ii. >> the mail brings hopeful news for tami butcher. >> yay! >> and mona selame finds her prospects looking good as well. >> lindsey's hot. have you seen her naked? oh, my god. she's going to look great behind my hiney. oh, my god. wake up ready to perform. now through june 11th, save $600 when you buy select tempur-pedic adjustable mattress sets. find your exclusive retailer at tempurpedic.com. >>> depending on the news it brings, mail call can be one of the happiest or saddest times of day at the orange county jail. >> if i don't get mail every day, i get very upset. >> for tami butcher, today's delivery has brought some much needed hope. >> i got my letter of acceptance to the program that i was trying to get into. it says to tami butcher. you're right, tami. you are worth it. there's no reason why you can't be a good mother and a productive w

[laughter] a pile of bologna. [laughter] i made a list.umber one, comey leaked over a trump tweet. >> the president tweeted on friday after i got fired that i better hope there's not tapes. i boeing up in the middle -- i woke up in the middle of the night on monday night because it doesn't dawn on me originally that there might be corroboration for our conversation, there might be a tape. and my judgment was i needed to get that out into the public square, and so i asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo with a reporter. greg: when i wake up in the middle of the night, i take a leak. [laughter] i don't leak! in the hierarchy of honorable things to do, i go with tweeting over leaking. at least with a tweet, you know it's coming from trump, for better or worse. trump stands by his tweets. comey hid behind a leak. he had his buddy drop it to the times to protect himself. that's a weeny move, and i know weeny moves. fact is, in all of this he suddenly realized trump is the more transparent of the two. he's abrasive, he's blunt,

. >> we watched it sitting on the floor eating bologna sandwiches and having a sense of unrealty. >>sions i have had with congressional and other leaders i have concluded that because of the watergate matter i might not have the support of the congress that i would consider necessary to back the very difficult decisions and carry out the duties of this office in the way the interest of the nation would require. >> i was just awe struck at the whole thing. very little sense of self. it was really about the magnificence of what had occurred in terms of the right thing. >> therefore, i shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow. vice president ford will be sworn in as president at that hour in this office. >> our first reaction really was he is not president anymore. he is just a citizen. now we can indict him. that is what we thought. >> the morning he resigned i remember i walked down the street and bought a bottle of scotch. >> earlier today the east room of the white house was the scene of an emotional meeting between the president, his cabinet and the aides who have sta

italian police say zaghba was stopped at the bologna airport in march 2016 when he tried to board a planenbul. they found extremist material on his phone. according to media reports, italian officials suspected he was trying to get to syria.british authorities believe zaghba , along with rachid redouane and khuram butt, had only been planning the attack for about two to three weeks. but officials think others may have known about the plot. mak chishty/ metropolitan police commander for engagement: "we're saying they had a duty, the muslim community saying they had that duty to report it."uk counterterrorism sources tell cnn butt was most likely the ringleader of the trio, and was considered a major threat. butt was seen as a heavyweight figure in al-muhajiroun, a group of extremists who support isis in the uk. and he was being investigated by mi5, sources said.still, his involvement in the attack over the weekend that killed seven and injured 48 others, came as a shock to many who knew him. jason horner/ reformed radical: "it's still a shock to me and a shock to the people that knew him -

it his a biscuit, a one ounce slice of bologna, comes with cereal, a carton of milk and a vitamin enrichedtified beverage that they're served with breakfast, lunch and dinner. we have to serve nutritious meals. they have to leave here in better health than when they came here. >> when you come up, last name and bunk number. >> one of the inmate workers in the kitchen, john powers, was a chef before he was brought to hillsborough county on grand theft charges. he pled not guilty and is awaiting trial. but he has reached a verdict on the kitchen's recipes. >> i critique it a lot. i say, they could have used some more cornstarch or salt or garlic. but they are trying to have a budget and can only spend so much per inmate for food. so you just take in stride and close your eyes and eat it and make the best of it. >> in prison, we got cheeseburgers and pizzas and steak and cheese sandwiches and ice cream. in prison compared to this, it's no comparison. there's chicken in here but the chicken is not -- it's not real good chicken. >> jason flores has temporarily transferred to the jail from state

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vote homework, it could be very problematic and that's what we have to be focused on and set up a bolognahat we saw focused on today. i look to your previous guests, mike debate partner here tossed out the word obstruction of justice. the president of the united states is not guilty of that, he has the right to fire anybody -- he has the right to to fire the fbi director and there has been no evidence of any correction. he said to the fbi director he said i want you to go find the satellite, the people involved in my campaign and see if they were doing anything involved with the russians. that's not the mindset of the guy who wants to shutdown the investigation investigation. something entirely different. >> martha: if it turns out that there's no obstruction of justice as he has just outlined and that there was no collusion, will there still be this outcry, because we will have more elections on the road. you think about the north koreans trying to put a nuclear missile -- a nuclear warhead on top of a missile, they will keep working on until they figure out how to do it. when you think

in the small italian village of fagnano near bologna, where members of his family still live, his motherlic surroundings, but radicalised by things he saw and read on the internet. there are no words to express this. i understand what a mother is feeling because i'm feeling it too. ican feeling because i'm feeling it too. i can feel the pain of these people inside my heart. unconfirmed reports said that youssef zaghba was flagged, or authorities were alerted, when he arrived at stansted airport earlier this year. but he was allowed to enter the uk, despite a continental wide alert from italian police after they had previously stopped him from travelling to syria. when he reportedly told them, he was going to be a terrorist. similar concerns have already been raised about his accomplice, khurram butt. he was known to the police and had featured in a tv documentary about radical islam. one senior former cross—party adviser on security issues told the bbc that lives could have been saved had khurram butt been put under much closer supervision. khurram butt should have been subject to someth

in the small italian village of fagnano near bologna, where members of his family still live, his motherung man, growing up in idyllic surroundings, but radicalised by things he saw and read on the internet. translation: what we clashed was his radicalisation over the treatment of muslims. i would say to him, you don't have to react that way. if you go on facebook, there are lots of people who condemn these acts of violence, but don't act. unconfirmed reports said that youssef zaghba was flagged, or authorities were alerted, when he arrived at stansted airport earlier this year. but he was allowed to enter the uk, despite a continental—wide alert from italian police after they had previously stopped him from travelling to syria. and he reportedly told them, he was going to be a terrorist. similar concerns had already been raised about his accomplice, khurram butt. he was known to the police and had featured in a tv documentary about radical islam. one senior former cross—party adviser on security issues told the bbc that lives could have been saved had butt been put under much closer sup

that is something that anybody -- again, let's get out of the political bologna that we're hering and say that's something that is very, very serious. but jim comey -- and he admitted it. he was totally up front about saying when you're standing with the president of the united states and he's threatened your job and told you what he wants to do, i don't know about pete. but, you know, that's a tough political moment. so what you're hearing from mr. hoekstra, of course, is, gosh, nothing matters. it's alterable. no. we have a situation now where the president very clearly decided to ignore the rule of law, the tradition of independence of the fbi. he may very well -- i'm not prepared to say that he did, but he may very well have obstructed justice. whatever you want to say about jim comey or the media or loretta lynch, those facts are true and they are challenging. >> go ahead, congressman hoekstra. >> no, i think that's not at all accurate. what this investigation was originally intended to do and supposedly what they've been working on for, you know, 12 to 15 months is determining e

youssef zaghba was stopped at bologna airport in march of last year on his way to istanbul, the italianbeyond dispute. the italian police have also told the bbc that they then put him on and eu wide watchlist, a system which is for terrorist suspects that can be monitored by people in other countries but an italian prosecutor has told italian radio that the that the british intelligence officer based in italy was also informed and that he had then passed that on to london. all of which is very strange because scotland yard have said to us because scotland yard have said to us that youssef zaghba was not a person of interest either to themselves or to the security service m15 which mean something went wrong in the process of communication or once they receive the information they assessed he would not become a significant person of interest. 0vernight all of the people arrested on sunday were freed but 127—year—old man was arrested —— one 27—year—old man. freed but 127—year—old man was arrested -- one 27-year-old man. the reports about another attacker whose image we saw earlier, the fac

. >> or a bologna sandwich. >> that's just in your club. >> i don't know if i'd go as far as to say yes. i've been around this place a long time, seen a lot of tragedy happen and seen us say it's going to change and it hasn't. so let me say, the answer i would say is i hope so because it needs to happen. i guess time will tell. >> it's only been a couple hours since -- can you describe a little more of the emotional and psychological stages you've gone through, how your son's doing, and if you changed -- >> i did get home. >> and an update on the victims. >> i told him i wouldn't stand next to him until he changed his clothes. >> one thing that hasn't changed is the traffic. 395 is a parking lot. that's why we started at 4:00 instead of 3:30. well, when it happens, when you don't know that you're going to be shot at, and so you hear this bang, and you're not sure that it's a shot, but then you heard three or four bang, bang, bangs right in a row and you knew that we were being shot at. and my son was down in the -- along the first base side with my oldest son in a batting cage. and i wa

that's what the kind of bologna we've been told. in england there are people that have indicated as much, how outrageous it was that president trump pulled the united states out of the paris accord. because he saw the damage that was going to be done to the united states economy. he saw the damage that would be done to the united states jobs. i talked to people in east texas last week -- weekend, different places around east texas and they kept coming back, i'm so grateful that donald trump pulled out of the paris accord. one of them has a new -- some type of concrete business. they've got rights to a specific process, it's great for the environment, it's green. then we find out our business was going to be devastated if we stayed in the paris climate accord. it would have gutted our business. we've been having to file for -- we'd be having to file for bankruptcy. others were telling me the same things, different places, sam song. we found out how much -- same song. we found out how much our business would have been gutted if the pr

i spent four days in bologna with my counterparts. we started bilateral discussions with respect to our continued leadership with respect to co2 production. that is another area we need to recognize progress being made. innovation and technology has wrought about a tremendous reductions,2 particularly hydraulic fracking and conversion to natural gas. what we should be focusing on as , we need toricity focus on using the latest technology that reduces emissions in a meaningful way and focus on leading the international discussion and export that innovation. this is not a sign of disengagement. the president made this clear. we are going to approach from a way of real action to reduce co2. >> i appreciate your thoughts. and i hope it is not a sign of disengagement. and that we are in going to be continue to be focused on co2. i'm not at all clear how we do that if we reduce funding for all these areas. i hope you can continue talking to me about that. >> if i may, in this regard, it's very important that congress -- congress does not ad

youssef zaghba was stopped at bologna airport after authorities suspected him of travelling to syria islamic state. let's bring in our home affairs correspondent daniel sandford. xavier thomas was missing and there we re xavier thomas was missing and there were concerns that had been pushed into the thames by the van. yes, you was with his partner, walking across london bridge on saturday night. his partner is in hospital, being treated for her injuries, but ever since the events of saturday night, seats has been missing and his family have been desperately trying to work out where he is. overnight, police at limehouse, a specialist marine unit, have recovered a body from the river thames at about 7:45pm last night. they have some procedures to go through a to ensure it really is xavier thomas, but it does look as if he was knocked off the bridge by the van as it drove at high speed. so he would then become the eighth victim of this terrorist attack. what is the latest on the investigation and the arrests? most of the people arrested on the sunday, in fact all of them, were released.

zaghba was stopped at bologna airport last year on suspicion of heading to syria.say he was placed on a watch—list with british authorities tipped off. border security staff are accused of still allowing him to return to the uk. the home office has declined to comment. the australian government says two of its nationals were among the seven people killed. their names haven't been officially confirmed. kirsty boden, a senior nurse at guy's hospital, murdered as she ran to help people who had been knocked down on london bridge. described as selfless, caring and heroic. the family of sara zelenak, a nanny from brisbane, say they are fearing the worst. she's one of those people that doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, doesn't do anything wrong. she's amazing and she's 2! years of age. french media have also confirmed the death of alexandre pigeard, a borough market restaurant waiter from normandy. sebastien boulanger‘s family are travelling to the uk from france to find out what's happened to the chef. desperate searches and desperate days for so many who found themselves

we are continuing to pressure -- >> bologna. >> we will continue to do that. i do think that we need to -- we need to look at enra in a way we expect more of them and put pressure on them so we can get the changes we need to have, changes in what they consider to be a refugee, changes in any textbooks on incitement, changes in hamas members teaching in the schools. there is work. i will say that there's also good that comes out of it. what they do with the schools and the health care, you do see value in it, but i think we need to continue to pressure them on the things we want to teach. >> thank you. on db s? >> the concern on enra is they're trying to get contributions in the u.n. and we are fighting that desperately. on bds it is something i spoke about in geneva and said it is a problem. i'm very concerned. i'm very concerned that we may not be able to defeat this, but we are trying extremely hard to show that this is something that cannot happen. as governor and ambassador, we were first state to fight it off. i know how dangerous and abusive it could be.

disturbingly, we're hearing from italian media he was stopped trying to fly from the bologna airport,e was stopped, on his phone isis material. stuart: got to leave you, ashley. i'm sorry i know you can't hear mement i've got a hard break. that's how it goes. the opening of the market next. all right, we're going to be down 50. >> all right. we've got about 25 seconds to go before we open up the market again on this tuesday morning. we're probably going to drop 40 to 50 points at the opening bell. there's anxiety on the market this morning about whether or not we're going to get tax cuts and/or health care reform done this year. there's a meeting about it this afternoon, it's a big meeting, very important. here we go. it's now 9:30 eastern time. we're off and running and we're going to open lower. we're off 38 points in the first couple of minutes and i keep seeing the red, and we're down a quarter of 1%. and where is that opened up this morning? down about a quarter percent. similar losses across the board and same story with the nasdaq, down about a quarter percent in the very, very