both the bombardier and alstom l.r.v.s are significantly better in design. neither have bench seating. both have individual seating, which is a combination of both transfers and longitudinal seats. like the bredalifes, most seats are transverse. in terms of materials, i would urge the board to review the specks. san diego has two generations of siemens l.r.v.s in service. both have better quality materials than the l.r.v. 4. in terms of workmanship, i would urge the board to recommend that siemens form a consortium. siemens and alstom were proposing to merge, but the european union denied the merger, due to concerns about anticompetitiveness. bombardier and alstom have formed a consortium to produce the montreal l.r.v.s. thank you. >> chair: thank you, ms. crop. >> thank you, everyone. robbin crop with save muni. i want to address plans for the seeking the design for the next l.r.v.s, being that we're here and you want to speed up the procurement. first thing i want to say is weed like to see a diagram of all seating arrangements for any rail cars. second th