bonawyn, do you like sofi? >> yes, i do this merges well with the last conversation with de-fi and new fin tech alternatives. soed lending business is rather robust i can see a pathway to that. you couple that in with student loans and that forbearance essentially ending in a couple months, in january of 2022, if i remember correct lip, there's an up side here i think the stock has traded on the back of that i think there's more room to run, and i think this is exactly what these -- what we, as the younger generation are looking for in terms of financial alternatives >> if sipped, what is the one stock you would buy as a symbol of the future of finance, karen, what would you say >> wow, that is a really hard question i'm not sure it would be sofi. one point that is analyst makes that i think is a catalyst is the end of the -- the student loan -- student loans will grow a lot in the coming year versus the pause they've been in. that's a good catalyst i don't understand, though, this whole fin tech valuation, whe

i think that was perfect well done, steve -- sorry, pete. >> i knew it would get bonawyn >> guy >> can you read my smart board exce excellent power pitch. fast haiku >> you missed the exclamation work >> i was surprised when i looked it is not north of 20. this stock should be trading at levels we last saw in 2015 >> your last line can't be punctuation. >> exclamation point, five syllables. >> i understand that >> steve >> i am going to give pita buy because when pete does a power pitch he usually hits it out of the park even with nat gas coming in, there is a potential for kinder to still perform i love that yield. buy. >> traders, it's your turn to vote are you buying pete's pitch? cast your vote and we will reveal the results later in the show >>> coming up, failure to launch william shatner may have finally seen space, but not everyone is coming along for the ride. more details after this. hey lily, i need a new wireless plan for my business, but all my employees need something different. oh, we can help with that. okay, imagine this... your mover, rob, he's on the scene and needs

texas was at 188 and traded up to 200 bonawyn liked it but i don't see how they will trade up next yearocuses on amd and nvidia eating everybody's lunch. >> dan >> it's a great example between disconnect of valuations and markets. nvidia, that thing is trading 53 times sales. a market cap company that blew out. think about how much market cap it gained, $50 billion that doesn't make sense when you think about the growth expectations next year on the flip side texas instruments with low digits trading about 10 times sales that doesn't make sense. my final call last night watts intel on its way down to the mid 40s. these are cyclical companies they do make changes you want to buy them when you are down and out and the valuation makes sense, not when they are busting out like this i am not a buyer of any of them, but i may consider intel on the way down to 45 >> it's a rare occasion when dan and tim would appear on something, but it appears they would agree on intel in this case >> we don't agree on fashion but -- >> you both keep rag and bone in business >> i can't see dan tonight so i do