you're not talking to people getting $5,000, $10,000 a month so they can eat bonbons all day. it's not an incentive to sit on your behind and not get a job. as i said before, there's not enough jobs for these people. a lot of these long-term unemployed, it becomes harder and harder to find a job. >> one of the issues the president's going to try and tackle now in 2014 is what he deems income inequality. i want to bring a very important chart that shows what's happened to middle-class people since obama was inaugurated. look. 2009, median income, $55,958. five years later, november of 2013, $52,163. david, is the president presenting a false argument, at least under his administration? because middle-class people are doing worse under his administration. >> for a variety of reasons. let's just start with you can't blame obama for everything, but five years into a recovery shows you that you really don't have a recovery, and there's a role when policy plays into it. there's an anti-business environment for a variety of reasons. and there hasn't been any tax reform. deal with the