i think it is finding its audience, people are watching this and loving it, the director, bong joon—hois like a children's movie, beguiling, like fable, and then becomes dark and upsetting and is appealing to all those people although it should not be watched by young children because it does get incredibly and dark later on. it does pack a punch. is it a straightforward campaigning film or is it more nuanced about human feelings? it is not a campaigning film, what it is, most of all, i hope, is a beautifulfilm. it is enchanting and disturbing and dark and entertaining so i think we valued aesthetics over ideology. however, it is really dark and it ends up in a slaughterhouse for magical animals and as a consequence, a lot of people will become vegetarians! you say this is not a campaigning film but if you look at a number of otherfilms, hollywood movies, the inexorable drive is towards vegetarianism. is that what you think is the message of the film? it is not the message of the film, it is the inevitable consequence. i guess one of the messages is about cognitive dissonance. we treat

and could have just said it's a super pig. [ laughter ] >> yeah, so this movie -- i love this guy, bong joon "memories and murder." he's wonderful. i was meeting with him few years ago and he told me i'm writing a movie about, like, a a young girl and her giant pig and i was like, you know, that's it. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: i'm in. that's it. >> that's all i needed to hear. it just sounds so beautiful. >> jimmy: tilda swinton comes out, she's like a kind of, ceo of some conglomerates and billionaires person. she comes out and says, "look, we are -- the population is growing and we're actually running out of food and if we don't act now this is going to be a major problem. so scientists have come together and we've invented a a super pig that we're going to just to breed and then slaughter." >> that's right, but this particular super pig is this little girl's best friend. [ audience aws ] >> jimmy: no, i mean, exactly. you guys are going to freak out. [ laughter ] i mean really. this is not really like it's a a movie for kids. which kind of -- >> well it is, i mean it is a a coming of age. it