and i loved his writings, so you are no bonhoeffer, not to denigrate your writing but i love bonhoeffers writings. i only concern was when you made the crack about the white nationalists. why didn't you expand that to say maybe communists? and so i will get all the vote and listen. >> guest: what crack? i don't remember. >> caller: earlier on you made some crack about white nationalists wouldn't quote understand something, having to do with religion and freedom. >> guest: i would think it would go without saying about communists. look, i think ed o'keefe are matter -- modern-day fascists pick with people on both sides you don't understand this. and it is horrifying. if ever of the american doesn'tt this and understand what's wrong with both sides of this equation, we are going to be in trouble. so thanks for reminding me. >> host: do you share her views about dietrich bonhoeffer is writing ability? >> guest: no. i think that tell you talk about different genres. bonhoeffer is writing was, well, some of his writing is incredibly boring. he was a theologian and some of it is -- his letter

so, sir, you are no bonhoeffer, not to denigrate your writing but i love bonhoeffer's writing.y only concern was when you make the crack about the white nationalis nationalists. why didn't you expand that to maybe communist? >> guest: what crack? >> caller: earlier on you made a quote white nationalists wouldn't understand something having to do with religion and freedom? >> guest: i think it goes without saying about communist. i think if anybody -- we have people on both side who don't understand this. if every american doesn't get this and understand what is wrong with both sides of this equation we will be in trouble. thanks for reminding me. >> host: do you share sharon's views about bonhoeffer's writing ability? >> guest: no. but his letters and what he wrote is gorgeous writing but i never thing of him as a pro-stylist. i think of him as a thinker more than anything else. he was more like hemmingway than joyce or priest. i never think of him as a writer but a thinker more than anything else. >> host: let's hear from john in san francisco. >> caller: hi, eric. i want to s

if you're not even willing to risk your life but "bonhoeffer" said when christ calls a man he did innd i and that is a huge statement. radical muslims understand it is life for death christians should understand if we are called by god to put myself second and others first the leading that makes us great is the idea we want to be strong so we can help others to become free we get a wrong sometimes but the point is we are supposed to that guides said i a did this for you do the same for others and when you do that by the way you will be blast is the reason you're on this planet so the idea you are truly alive when you die for yourself that is what it is a want to give my life away for guide by all the will be here for a little while i want my life to account a lot of people through that turn around. >> host: ralph from new york. >> caller: eric. it is so good to you period we met at the award dinner i had the pleasure of visiting with you with your lovely wife and daughter because i feel they have lost the stories and without that and to have a shared a throat -- ease those under that

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remember the words of bonhoeffer, they mean something. not to speak is to speak, not to act is to act. silence in the face of evil is evil it. one more time. not to speak is to speak. not to act is to act. silence in the face of evil is evil itself. god will not hold us guiltless. be there is a reason that jesus is described in the gospel of john as what? the word. the word. he means something. he cannot be changed. he's the logo, he's the way, he's the truth, he's the life. he defined himself as the alpa and the to mega. an alphabet. jesus, the incarnate son of god, in dwelling among us, defined himself as an alphabet, as a word. why? why? remember his words, you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. remember that he is the word made flesh and dwelling among us. remember that he has said, behold, i am coming soon. may the word, the word be your confidence and your courage as you fight the good fight to win the prize. which christ, the word, has called you heavenward. amen. do you have some questions? q&a. fire away. >>

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