horrifying when you think this is happening in america and in the west, and again because i wrote bonhoeffer and unfamiliar with that time, is exactly what happened in germany. there was a reagan science, national socialists insisted there's this new science and we don't want to listen to the old science anymore. we don't want any jewish science. science. we want pure aryan science and so they started pushing preposterous racial theories and so on and so forth. how is it possible that this is happening in the west right now? i mean, it's astonishing to me that science is undermining science, scientists are undermining scientists, journalists have undermined journalism. how do we get back to any sense of objectivity in either of those? >> the power is unbelievable aphrodisiac and scientists because it understand they are the most respected people in america that science is the most respected institution in america dentist and this gives an extraordinary power to wield behalf on the social change they want to see. that's really dangerous point they're acting outside their area of expertise and

. >> is horrifying to me to think this is happening in america and the west and because i wrote bonhoeffer and i'm familiar with that period. it's exactly what happened in germany. there was area and an in national scientists insisted there was this new science of and we don't want to listen to the old science anymore want the jewish scientific peer area and science and so they started pushing preposterous racial dairies t and so on and so fort. this is happening in the west right now. astonishing to me that science is undermining science and journalists have undermined journalism. how do we get back to any sense of objectivity in either of those spears? >> guest: scientist because they understand science is the most trusted institution in america it gives them extraordinary power to yield the social change that they want to dangerous.t's really they are acting outside their area of expertise and their actual purview and that is dangerous stuff and journalism in the same thing. as a journalist say it's our job to effect social change. yourl job to explain the facts are happening right now

horrifying when you think this is happening in america and in the west, and again because i wrote bonhoeffer and unfamiliar with that time, is exactly what happened in germany. there was a reagan science, national socialists insisted there's this new science and we don't want to listen to the old science anymore. we don't want any jewish science. science. we want pure aryan science and so they started pushing preposterous racial theories and so on and so forth. how is it possible that this is happening in the west right now? i mean, it's astonishing to me that science is undermining science, scientists are undermining scientists, journalists have undermined journalism. how do we get back to any sense of objectivity in either of those? >> the power is unbelievable aphrodisiac and scientists because it understand they are the most respected people in america that science is the most respected institution in america dentist and this gives an extraordinary power to wield behalf on the social change they want to see. that's really dangerous point they're acting outside their area of expertise and