and i'm joined now by bonnie claudser, she's the managing director of the german marshall funds in the pacific program. bonnie: welcome back to the day i want to jump right in and talk about lincoln's warning there that relations with europe cannot improve as long as beijing supports moscow . is that true as well? i do think that europe is increasingly concerned about china's support for its defense industrial base and enabling moscow to prosecute the war in ukraine and footprint is not just to ukraine. it is the fact that russia is acquired capabilities that in the future it could use against europe. so this has become a really high priority for europe and also for the united states. is it a priority for beijing now? well, i think that the russia, china relationship is a priority for badging, but it also wants to maintain stability in its relationship with the united states and improve ties with europe. and we will say, trying this leader siege and pinion fact go to europe and visit at 3 countries very soon. so i think the china wants to read this needle carefully. it really what does