capote is constant curiosity, a character who moved me the most in the book was bonnie clutter, who was the depressed mother. and there's a description of a room, and there's just so much empathy in that i mean also gets the murderer's, you know, and there's so much, you know, that he breathes into that that seems impossible you know, for a nonfiction book. but anyway those those you if you haven't read those and i met at a party when i was in grad school and asked about executioner's song and, he said that he thinks it came from god he said he just i mean he knew a ton he'd done so much research but that at that point the book just itself and to a certain extent i think maybe that's part it. i mean, we were talking before and i think that when you're trained as a novelist, it's so hard to do that thing, you know to write a novel, but then you carry that novelist sensibility into your observations in the way you you sort things into their place. and for me, you know, i was just finishing my first novel in 911 happened, and my high school classmate, a chairman of cantor fitzgerald and my

bonnie clutter was a loving mother, wife. and homemaker, having raised four poor children, two of which were grown adults. one was about to get married. and the family was very excited. but as know from this book, she suffered postnatal and ongoing depression in her life and. she was tragically killed at age 45. the bottom here, you see nancy clutter, and i think she's among the most tragic stories, she was a straight-a student in her high school. she just performed in a play of tom sawyer in the lead and she had a boyfriend named bobby rupp. and she was very sociable and well-liked. all. she had a horse. she loved animals. her horse babe was, very special to her. and she was only 16 when she when she died. and then there was the youngest son clutter, the only young man in the family of the four children. he was sort of shy, introspective, and he liked play sports and music and and he was only 15 when he when he died. now there are two adult daughters that i mentioned that aviana and beverly clutter. they were the two eldest