. >> bonnie fuller, editor in chief of hollywoodlife.com and robi ludwig, psychotherapist and contributorening or not happening in the lives of ashton kutcher and demi moore? what's the fascination? >> well, they're an iconic couple in hollywood. they're gorgeous. they're famous and of course she is famously 15 years older than he is, and i think a lot of people really thought that they were making this cougar/cub relationship work. he's also been very involved with her daughters and women love that, that he's been so loving to them. >> i think, too, they redefined the may-december relationship and shared a lot of their relationship with the public, so whenever you do that, people feel included and invested in the success of that kind of relationship. >> as we just heard they were seen together this weekend at this l.a. kabbalah center, so is it possible that all this gossip is for naught, that actually everything is just fine and we're actually just paying too much attention? >> i think where there's smoke there's always fire but perhaps they're a little bit ambivalent as to what they wa