let's bring in bonnie glazer a. she's the director of gauge up program at the german marshall fund of the united states and she joins us from washington. d. c. welcome to the dates. good. see you . it is the decision to postpone this visit over the chinese spy balloon? an overreaction. well i don't think it's completely an over reaction if secretary blank and had gone to china, the focus of the discussions and the reporting would have been on the balloon. by the way that lou would have been over us air space during his discussions in beijing because it's not moving very quickly. and i think also there's a sense in the united states that we have been asking china to engage in crisis communications discussions, risk reduction discussion so that we can avoid these kinds of incidents. the chinese frankly had been dragging their feet and this is sort of a teachable moment, that maybe they should engage in these discussions. and maybe that will enable us in the future, as we rescheduled this, as it to make more progress w

let's bring in bonnie glazer a. she's the director of gauge a program at the german marshall fund in the united states, and she joins us from washington. d. c. welcome to the dates. could see you. it is the decision to postpone this visit over the chinese spy balloon? an over reaction. well i don't think it's completely an over reaction if secretary blank and had gone to china, the focus of the discussions and the reporting would have been on the balloon. by the way that lou would have been over us air space during his discussions in beijing because it's not moving very quickly. and i think also there's a sense in the united states that we have been asking china to engage in crisis communications discussions, risk reduction discussion so that we can avoid these kinds of incidents. the chinese frankly had been dragging their feet and this is sort of a teachable moment, that maybe they should engage in these discussions. and maybe that will enable us in the future, as we rescheduled it to make more progress with the c

and for more we can speak to the german marshal funds, asia program director, bonnie glazer. miss glazer going to see you again? so a lot of back and forth since the 1st balloon was spotted? where do we stand? what do we know? and more importantly, what do we not know at this point? well, i certainly think there's more we do not know, including the 3 other balloons that were shot down over alaska and canada, and michigan, and even the 1st balloon. they are still in the process of collecting the debris off of the floor of the ocean. so we, we don't know whether china's of balloon was sending a radio signals intelligence, for example, live back to china. we don't know whether it was taking imagery and we don't know what these other balloons were intended for, nor do we know whether they had anything to do with china. the united states has denied sending any similar balloons over china. so now this has become a, i think, a contest of the what we call the blame game. and the u. s. and china are not really speaking in a diplomatic terms that are aimed at resolving this, this issue