the ajc has reported on some of the evidence developed in bonnie willis' probe.w that we're in a post e. jean carroll world where we know trump's own words are not viewed particularly favorably when he describes his conduct, particularly by juries. they di ulged dealing. they heard a recording of a phone call trump placed to late george house speaker david ralston in which trump asked the fellow republican to convene a special legislature to overturn democrat joe biden's narrow victory in georgia. when jurors said ralston proved to be an amazing competition, the speaker cut the president off. he said i will do everything in my power that i think is appropriate. he basically took the wind out of the sail was what em. well, thank you, you know, is all the president could say. so mr. ralston has something in common with rusty bowers. mr. ralston has something in common with every legislator who was asked to do the same thing. it is abundantly clear that because it happened in public view, that there was a multistate campaign. i wonder what your open questions are ab

today's effort is not the first time trump's team has tried to dismiss bonnie willis' case. isqualification in fullerton supreme court. they noticed the supervising judge of the special grand jury has yet to rule on the motion and that willis has notified local court officials and local law enforcement she is likely to seek an indictment at some point between july 3 st and august 18th. quote, stranded between the supervising judges' protracted passivity, trump has no option other than to seek a motion. trump's last effort to pull off staving charges is where we start. greg bluestein is back with us and formers district attorney glenn kirschner is back. greg, take me inside what's happening down in georgia. >> this is a legal effort of last resort with indictments looming. some experts equate this to a legal equivalent of throwing something against the wall and hoping it sticks. even trump's attorney acknowledge this evident is unusual but necessary given the really tight time frame with indictments expected as soon as august. and two new regular grand juries were just seated

so i can understand why bonnie willis would be expanding to that extent. she wouldn't necessarily be expanding to the extent of jack smith, who's looking at a much broader array of issues. but i think what's happening in arizona is going to be relevant to her and to jack smith's investigation. >> and phil, from president trump once again defended his call to brad raffensperger in georgia during a campaign rally in south carolina on saturday. let me play part of that. >> right next door in georgia, the racist district attorney goes after me for a perfect phone call even more perfect than the call i made to ukraine. even more perfect. >> that's a twofer. even more perfect than the call that got him impeached. president zelenskyy. you can't make this up. but let me ask you more seriously about his defense of that call. the perfect phone call. >> yeah. well, andrea, it's not really up to him to determine whether the call was perfect or not. there's a legal process in this country. willis is the prosecutor there are in georgia. there's a grand jury that's been

. >> with bonnie willis maybe ready to hand trump a fourth indictment, the mar-a-lago manager accused

>> it goes back to the letter bonnie willis sent to judges in fulton county letting them know when her staff was going on at 70% and asking them not to schedule trials for a certain period. that signals to people that's a period in which willis expected to bring at least an attempt to bring an indictment. obviously the grand jury is the final auditor of that. that's what suggests these two that were seated today are likely going to pass judgment. >> i feel like we should have this down by heart now considering how many grand juries we've covered, but once a grand jury is impanelled, how long does it take typically before a charging decision is met? it probably has a lot to do with what kind of cases are being put in front of them. what's the expectation? >> i think again it depends but she understood the two grand juries would start on july 13th and 14th. they're projection based on communication to the court, sometime probably in the first two weeks of august based on the presentation of evidence. >> why two? >> it's the normal order of business. we have no reason to believe that both

trump's petition has been denied to qualify bonnie willis after she seated a grand jury. but we're just hours away from the first two hearings in another state. donald trump's classified documents case. arguments about when and how this trial is going to be conducted. special counsel jack smith is also moving ahead with a new filing proposing a protective order for the classified information in this case. the filing includes a warning to trump that any violations could result in contempt of court and possible referral for prosecution, as well as the termination of his access to classified information. now, of course, judge cannon would need to sign off on such a measure, but over the weekend, trump took the unusual step of talking about judge cannon, whom he appointed. >> she's very smart and very strong and loves our country. we need judges that love our country so they do the right thing. >> meanwhile, we're learning new details about jack smith's other investigation into january 6th. specifically we've learned about that proper session with rudy giuliani. new reports a

bonnie willis just days after she seated the grand jury that would consider any criminal charges. it centers on a pressure campaign on georgia's republican secretary of state, some of it heard on the infamous phone call. >> so, look, all i want to do is this -- i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. >> now, trump is desperate to derail the investigation, because he knows what might be coming. a final decision on criminal charges from the georgia grand jury is expected before the end of the summer. all of this as special counsel jack smith's probe into january 6th is heating up, now faithful trading trump's inner circle, interviewing dozens of witnesses, people like trump's former attorney general, rudy giuliani, mark maddows and former vice president mike pence, who was one of the targets of the violent mob at the capitol that day. growing list of witnesses including hope hicks, and his son-in-law jared kushner, who were reportedly asked pointed questions about trump's criminal intent. they also spoke to the january 6th committee. >> jared, are you aware

. >> with bonnie willis maybe ready to hand trump a fourth indictment, the mar-a-lago manager accused of scheming with trump to cover up his classified documents makes his first appearance in court. >>> also, the incredible shrinking campaign. desantis trailing trump by a mile with a former supporter saying he doesn't understand the voters. plus, samuel alito saying congress has no business of imposing ethics. ethics. and good evening, everyone. i am back from a long weekend in the glorious british virgin islands. like a summer vacation, long or short, has this abrupt ending where reality kicks back in, well, in this case, reality has a familiar vibe. it is called the waiting game and that's where we begin tonight. for donald trump, that means waiting to see whether fulton county, georgia district attorney willis and or jack smith will run up his tally of indictments to three or four before the end of the summer with both prosecutors focusing on his efforts to overturn his failed 2020 re-election bid. this morning, a judge in georgia rejected trump's latest efforts to stop willis' inv