but if there is a booby trap, they can take all the time they need. we've got enough dead people and injured people right now. we don't want to see anybody else hurt, and that's why law enforcement is going to move as fast as they can for the safety of the public but as slow as they need to for the safety of themselves. >> one thing we confirmed with jeremy's reporting that holmes was the one that confirmed to police that his car mooi ight h explosives and the apartment itself might be booby trapped. how pressed is he to not give information to the police if he's trying to -- it could be a way to tell them about it. >> who knows what goes on in the mind of a mass murderer, something like this. he holds law enforcement to a higher standard. maybe this is someone who aspired to be a police or law enforcement person. he may be a murderer, but in his mind, hey, at least i didn't kill any police officers. so all of this is yet to be determined, but realize, you know, you and i are trying to think logically while this guy is thinking in a fantasy world or t

this is the sergeant outside that booby trapped apartment.et's listen in. >> i'll take your questions. the governor, aurora mayor have r. on scene. once they leave this scene, they're going and visiting victims at area hospitals. for the update at the apartment, we have been successful in defeating the first threat. as you may recall, described that threat as a trip wire and also included a defeating the first incendiary device. can you repeat that? >> yes. we have been successful in defeating the first threat which includes defeating the trip wire and the first inceiary device. what you need to understand is that this trip wire was set up to clearly detonate when somebody entered that apartment and set up to kill that person and that could have been a police officer executing a search warrant or anything. so this is some serious stuff that our team is dealing with. so what's happening now with the team is dealing with now they're reassessing the scene. now that the first threat is taken care of. this provided them a chance to rest and reasse

>> trip wires, jars of accelerants and ammunition, they're all part of an elaborate booby trap at the apartment of 24-year-old man accused of going on that deadly shooting spree at a movie theater in colorado. right now, police are working desperately to get into that apartment. hello, i'm marcel neville live in new york. >> i'm glad you're with us, i'm rick fulbaum. and they say the first trip wire and explosives attached to it have been disarmed. nor danger inside. the bomb squad are trying to find a way in, one that will protect lives and pre sear serv leave as well. >> we have live teams, adam housley and mike tobin are live with the latest from aurora, and molly henneberg is standing by live in washington. first we'll go to adam housley just a block or so away from james holmes' apartment and you've been hearing the explosions there, tell us more. >> that's right, we're block or so from the apartment complex, step away and give you the vantage point. the hook and ladder truck is have taken individuals to the third story apartment where james holmes has booby trapped the place. th

. >> what do you make of the booby trap in the apartment? or suspected booby trap? >> this is being treated properly. there is no reason to go in quickly. they've got it surrounded what is interesting is that homes have been killed in the course of the shooting which is a real possibility. where that is why they're wearing armor and all. then, nobody would have known about the booby trap and would have been likely police might have opened up the door in a normal fashion without taking precautions because of what he told them. and that would have created more injuries. >> and if you heard the interview i read there is a woman who lives bee neenl him who apparently left music on and kept repeating and repeating about midnight. she went up to tell him to stop doing it. saw the door open and thought about going in. but didn't. and then, called police about the music. the police said we're busy with a shooting but she's another phone shall victim of this. if it's a booby trap like that. >> that is mike tobin's information was very important f she'd opened it up, dependin

a booby trap in the apartment.ng that the door, it was opened from the outside, something would blow up inside of the apartment. we were told that there may be buckets of bullets inside of the apartment. james holmes, 24 years old, who may be as you indicated earlier, a medical student at one of the universities of colorado facilities. this is just literally across peoria boulevard from where the suspect's apartment is. it's a caucus morning the fire department came. they put a bucket up to the back windows and broke out the window. they used some sort of infrared or night vision devices to look inside the apartment. that is how they spotted the booby traps in the devices inside the explosive areas. within the last hour, fire trucks have shown up at the scene. they have evacuated five apartment buildings that are adjacent to the apartment of the suspect. they have evacuated those buildings as well. what is so ironic is that many of the people, they are basically just sitting outside in lawn chairs, watching all of

or the suspected booby-trap? it is something they have seen, it is not confirmed it's an actual weapon, but it's suspicious. >> they are treating it properly with great difference, they have it surrounded, no problem. what's interesting, if holmes had been kill in the course of this shooting, which is a real possibility, he was wear ago that's why he was wearing all the armor and all, then nobody would have known about the booby trap and it would have been more likely the police going to his apartment might have opened up the door in the normal fashion without taking the precautions that they did because what have he told them about there being explosives in his apartment. and that would have created -- a lot more injuries. >> if you heard the interview that i just had with my colleague, mike tobin. there was a woman who lives beneath him who apparently he left music on and it kept repeating and repeating about midnight. and she went up to tell him to stop doing it, saw the door open or ajar, thought about going

the entire apartment is booby trapped from floor to ceiling, there are wires all over the place and cook bottles filled with liquids and balloons with white powder and shells, shotgun shells and other type of weaponry just laying around. and there are papers, this basically is a rats nest of stuff. so, what they have to do is find a way to start. to get a starting point, the technicians, so bomb robots can get in there and try to defuse the situation and at the same time trying to secure as much of the evidence as absolutely possible. the big deal, really, this morning as the operation goes on was the first information we heard after that first little explosion, which was that the door to the apartment of james holmes was set and this was a quote, to kill the first person that it opened-- that opened it and we know that the neighbor almost opened that door and we also know at that police almost opened that door and thankfully no one did because it would have set off a situation that would have killed or maimed a number of people. and the evacuation, police are happy with the evacuation s

at the accused movie shooter's booby trapped apartment. plus, the suspect's motive. what set this guy off? the honor stew you den studente say called himself the joker. >> we heard a loud explosion and shortly after that we heard gunshots open up. >> somebody is shooting in the auditorium. >> i got shot. >> it was chaos. you saw injured people. there was this one guy on all fours crawling. >> there is people just running around. somebody is still shooting inside theater number nine. >> i heard the sound of metal cansters clinking around and then saw plumes of smoke. >> we can't get in it. >> suspect in a gas mask. >> shepard: tonight, what we are learning about the suspect. >> this is the act apparently of a very deranged mind. >> his apartment is apparently booby trapped. >> the holmes family is is very upset about all of this. it is a tragic event. >> shepard: the survivors. >> horrific injury. i mean i don't know how else to explain it. it is horrific. >> shepard: and the victims including a young woman who cheated death just a few weeks ago. first from fox this t

what about the booby traps and these chemicals? >> reporter: tonight a very tense situation ongoing at the suspect's apartment. we're told it's booby trapped, full of trip wires, containers of flammable liquids and what appear to be large explosive devices. sources say the bombs involved a combination of gas and powder devices. it's so dangerous that authorities are inserting remote controlled cameras to scan the rooms. one official said holmes was like a mad scientist. sources say the rooms appear to be designed to explode if police had raced through the door. officials believe it was a plan to massacre police if he had been killed at the scene, diane. >> pier thomas also reporting in tonight. thank you. >>> above all, of course, this is a story of those who lived and those who did not. how one seat made all the difference between life and death. we've been hearing harrowing stories today. we've seen the photos of families awaiting word about their loved ones. this woman overheard saying, they cannot find him. abc's chris cuomo sp

they think his apartment might be booby trapped. they have had fbi agents working with the fire department on a ladder truck. they have broke out the back windows of the apartment. the bomb experts have put cameras inside the apartment to look around and make sure the door, the front door of the apartment was not booby trapped and there were no more explosive devices inside of that unit. they are methodical in their search. they have swat team members from denver, denver county, adams county, jefferson county, aurora police, and denver police all here on the scene along with fbi, atf agents. they are making sure this apartment was not booby trapped, as i mentioned and did not have more explosive devices in it. apparently the suspect has made assertions that in fact he did have more bomb making materials in his apartment. so they are being very cautious and they are checking very methodically before they send the agents in. they are making sure all the residents are safe. they have evacuated them about the last two hours and two buil

because the entire apartment was booby-trapped there was no way to begin. they said late yesterday is when they first start talking about the possibility that we may want to set something up to give us an entry point. that first bomb and that first trip wire have been successfully diffused with their own little device. maybe the firefighter and the technician are looking to see if there is enough of an area to start the process, or maybe they are looking next stop to enter. fe look like it, they think there is definitely something that could go off, and that's why they are taking the extra precautions. the entire area around the complex is evacuated. we are next to the believe on apartment with people still in it. john? >> adam howsley on you sight -- outside the apartment there. we have been able to watch video feed from our friends in denver, and there is an eod, explosive ordinance disposal, a bomb squad member from the sheriff's department. and i'm assuming that the arapahoe sheriff's department but it could be somebody else. >> john? >> go ahead. >> yo

authorities cleared the suspect's booby-trapped apartment.ch includes 30 explosives devices and a computer hard drive. police say 12 people are dead, while 30 are still hospitalized. 7 of them in critical condition. 24-year-old james holmes is in solitary confinement and will be represented by a public defender when he is arraigned on monday. for more on all of this, including president obama's trip to colorado, today, let's bring in our fox news colleague, jon scott who was at the theatre where the attack occurred. jon? >> jon: we have new and eerie photos of the

i'm not exactly sure if he said that he booby trapped his apartment. he could have said that he had more explosive devices in his apartment. if you notice from the video the police of outside his apartment using a camera. they are looking in from the outside. i'm not so sure if that is exactly the language that he used. however, if it is, i do believe that he intended for more people to be harmed not only at his apartment and maybe even at other locations as well, sean. >> you know, rod, you know also he mentioned that he had explosives in his car to the officers, i believe. and there was no explosives in the car. they ripped the car apart. now, all of a sudden he mentioned about explosives in his house or whatever. but i mean this is a totally schizophrenic bipolar person here you would think he would go out in a blaze of glory and shoot it out with the cops but he didn't do that. >> sean: but the police chief did in it fact confirm they had the cameras and go into this and see the setup there themselves. they see the bottles filled with liquid and th

authorities took several explosives from the apartment of the suspect the carter about a truck full from the booby trap apartment and detonated several of them. in aurora demand suspected of the shooting that left 12 people dead plan the massacre with " calculation and liberation " they say james holmes had been receiving deliveries for months weapons that armed him for battle and to be tracked people trapped his apartment, eight public defenders has been appointed to defend him appearing to receive garcia with more >>> some many developments an aurora i can tell you the shopping center has reopened and police plan to move out of the movie theater and midweek pass for a crosstown the bomb experts inside the suspect's apartment have cleared out the dangerous and explosive material. a controlled explosion went off inside the apartment of the accused gunman james holmes. the blast designed to help law- enforcement get inside the apartment they say contained a complicated array of explosive devices and ammunition and trigger wire. >>> the threat has not been eliminated but reduced. >>> he is in custod

so this apartment is booby trapped from floor to ceiling. now, we do know that authorities had a plan in place this morning, they had a big meeting for about two hours, the fbi is here,

yet he warned police about the booby trap. complete with head troe terbgts, groin protectors, intent on having a gun battle with someone. yet when he was confronted by police he gave up without a fight. >> thank you for the update about the shooter. obviously in the media we focus first on the media because we try to figure out what made this horrible carnage happen but the compelling stories are the 70 people who were shot. 70 people shot, 12 of whom were killed including this young woman jessica ghawi. >> jessica ghawi was an aspiring sportscaster and someone who just survived a horrifying situation recently. she was at the toronto mall shooting and saw first responders, saw people being carried out, was witnessing that entire scene, was tweeting about it and her family wants you to remember jessica. wants her picture up. even posted a youtube video which i will put on twitter in a moment the family sent out the youtube. here is a clip from that as she's talking to hockey players. you can see her personality coming out there

that booby-trapped apartment, hopefully what is in there will speak volumes.thank you. >> rick: who knows what was going inside their head at the time of the bloody rampage. but our next guest studied the criminal mind, mary ellen o'toole. you have sort of dissected the minds of some of the most notorious criminals over the last 30 years on or so. i ask you the question has been asking me -- why would someone do this? >> there is not one single motive for these kinds of cases. the motives can change over time. the motive that this offender had months ago was probably different than the motives at the time of the shooting. they can include such things as feeling helpless, feeling isolated, wanting to take revenge on people even though it's inappropriate. wanting to put fear in people. really wanting to kill people because of his life and wanting notoriety and feeling supreme. you can have multiple motives and that culminate in the behavior you saw at the theater. this is someone who went from a le clues to now a star on the national stage. he probably got more

police say it is booby trapped, designed to explode if any one enters.le motive. jennifer griffin in d.c. tonight. sadly, we have seen these types of tragedies before. >> since 1999 and the columbine shooting there have been more than 27 mass casualties shootings defined as more than four people killed at one time. this is the largest mass casualty shooting in colorado since that shooting left 12 people dead. most have been domestic gunmen with no links to international terror groups or al-qaeda. they usually involve psychologically disturbed straight aheads like the two teenage boys who killed classmates 15 miles from the aurora, colorado movie theater. in 2002, two snipers terrorized washington, d.c. the pair of shooters had no broader affiliation. at virginia tech in 2007 the student who went on a shooting rampage there killing 32 people, most fellow students was a lone wolf who len killed himself. last year in arizona, congressman gabrielle giffords was shot and six people killed by a lone gunman. the fbi says of the mass shootings, there are only 1%

even though the apartment was totally booby trapped when they arrived here. the two things we learned about tonight is one there was a poster inside of batman we are told on the wall as well as a map associated with t-- mask associated with the film. they won't tell us if it was a batman mask or one of the characters. there were other things including a computer tower has been totally found in perfect order. they found all sorts of different samples of the some of the accelerants he used and powders he used. the key here for them was the fact that they were able to secure all of the evidence didn't lose any of it. at the same time everybody was safe and secure trying to diffuse the situation. just a block and a half or so. you can see that facility right there that is the hospital where people are still inside from the shooting. that is one of the hospitals. we know of three major operations that took place as people are continuing to recover. for some of the people it will be months if not years before the recovery takes place. judge? >>> oo a traem douse co

and now he has taken the other steps to try to booby trap his apartment. guy who has a sophisticated level of understanding about firearms, explosives and tactics. and this really is one of the worst nightmares of all security and police, because you never know where this is going to come at you from or what the capability is, the tactical capability of the individual. >> one of the questions that the bomb experts had from the beginning, is this threat real? we now know that it was, that they've had some time to be on the scene there. but the first thing that you would assume in a situation like that, when you've seen the destruction that's already happened, would be that this would be the real deal. this was not a fake. this is something that was designed for maximum destruction just as it seemed to be at the theater. >> a couple different aspects pose some real questions. the first is obviously it is real, because of the ability to use the weapons at the scene. so you have to then assume that whatever else is out there could either be -- at the very leas

they say the 24-year-old man booby trapped it before he went out on his mission to kill. we are told he walked into the packed theater after midnight and dressed head to to in black with a gas mask and ballistic vest and helmet and protections on his throat and groin. some said they thought it was part of an act, part of the show. but we told he set off two explosions and started shooting into the crowd. all right now officials say 12 people are dead and at least 59 others are hurt. it is under clear whether the man was shot or whether he was covered this the blood of other victims. here is how a witness described it all. all there was one guy on all fours, crawling, and there was a girl spitting up blood. there were bullet holes in some people's back, arms. one guy was stripped down to his boxers. it looked like he was shot not back or something. >>shepard: it happened in a theater outside of denver and 20 miles from the site of the shooting at columbine high school. listen to the back-and-forth as first responders arrived early this morning and they realized they had a

the bomb squad started assessing the booby traps. they were extensive. >> i see an awful lot of wires, trip wires, jars full of ammunition. jars full of liquid. something that look like mortar rounds. we have a lot of challenges to get in there safely. >> today, inside dozens of hospital rooms, survivors struggle to make sense of all of this. >> it was cold and calculated, definitely. it seemed very methodical. the way in which he was firing and how he wasn't moving position. he was just unloading into the crowd. >> and all day long ten bodies remained inside the building while law enforcement secured the scene. their families and friends left waiting and wondering. >> tell me where he is? okay? find my son. i don't know where he is. okay? somebody find him and call us. tell him to call us. >> his son, never called. sadly alex sullivan is dead. late in the day, the authorities finally started to bring out the bodies. among the dead, jessica ghawi redfield. that aspiring skorts caster to excited before the movie. tonight her mother sp

the apartment is booby-trapped.re as we speak trying to disarm flammable and explosive tears there. you have a dangerous situation. we saw some pictures earlier of police trying to go in through the window so that's how concerned they are. and i was struck this morning, one law enforcement official said that this man came to commit a premeditated well thought out massacre at that theater. >> and tell me again, pierre, what you know about his weapons. >> reporter: again, law enforcement sources telling us that he was armed with an assault-style rifle, a shotgun, which apparently is till in the theater, and two pistols and lots and lots of ammunition, diane. >> okay, i want to go back, brian, anything else you've learned about him, exactly what he was wearing and how this relates to the scenes in the movie. >> well, he appeared to be in all black, well armed and fully armored according to one police account, almost as if he was a kind of batman, which, of course, is how police profilers are wondering what was in his h

loaded with explosive booby traps. david wright begins our coveraged from denver suburb of aurora. >> reporter: good evening, bill. we're a few yards away from the multiplex where the massacre took place. the coroner met with loved one and outside that high school, as you can see, people were crying. the midnight showing of "the dark knight rises." to fans across the country, a summons asser resistible as the bat signal. at the century 16 theater here in aurora, the crowd included jennifer seeger, a young couple with their two kids and jessica ghawi, a 25-year-old aspiring sports caster who goes by the professional name jessica redfield. she tweeted her friends from inside the theater, "movie doesn't start for 20 minutes," she wrote excitedly in capital letters. the last tweet she would ever send at 11:37. about 12:05 right as the credits started to roll, a man in the front row of theater 9 got up, pretending to take a phone call. he went out the emergency exit, propping open the door behind him. 24-year-old james eaga

even though the apartment was totally booby trapped when they arrived here. things we learned about tonight is one there was a poster inside of batman we are told on the wall as well as a map associated with t-- mask associated with the film. they won't tell us if it was a batman mask or one of the characters. there were other things including a computer tower has been totally found in perfect order. they found all sorts of different samples of the some of the accelerants he used and powders he used. the key here for them was the fact that they were able to secure all of the evidence didn't lose any of it. at the same time everybody was safe and secure trying to diffuse the situation. just a block and a half or so. you can see that facility right there that is the hospital where people are still inside from the shooting. that is one of the hospitals. we know of three major operations that took place as people are continuing to recover. for some of the people it will be months if not years before the recovery takes place. judge? >>> oo a traem douse co tremend

. >> they discovered it was booby trapped. >> various incendiary and chemical devices and tip wires. >>> aurora police chief said the complex is evacuated and they are trying to figure out how to safely go in and clear the booby traps out. >> allie rasmus. >> ktvu news. >>> again, he is identified as 24-year-old james holmes and he lives in aurora, colorado. he started dropping out of the university of colorado school of medicine. he graduated in the san diego area. they have nod found any links between holmes and the terrorists groups and at this time his motive resist unknown. >>> they came toe this home in san diego. it is the home of the alleged gunman's mother who told the local media there, she turned on the news and here what happened and immediately feared her son was some how involved. when police arrived at her house, she reportedly said quote. you have the right person. >>> the alleged gunman's family released this statement. it reads in part. our hearts go out to those who were involved in this tragedy and to the family asen friends of those involved. we are still trying

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what they've learned perhaps from that booby trapped apartment.understand that they were able to detonate some of the materials in that apartment complex but it doesn't mean that they have ended that investigation by any stretch of the imagination. and we hope to also hear some answers as to how in the world such a very well planned attack could be executed. so the mayor steve hogan is that gentleman right there. let's see. doesn't look like he has actually approached the microphone but perhaps we're able to hear something. >> who represent federal, state, and local government and all the messages of support that we have received from literally around the world, people giving us their thoughts and their prayers. we can i think now start this process of -- natural process of grieving and healing. i started today talking with representatives of our community of faith and how involved they are and want to be in our community and to be helpful to our citizens. also went over to university hospital and met with some of the families of some of those fol

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do we have any sense of who these booby traps were targeted for?ghbor trying to quiet a noisy tenant? have you spoken to police about any insight there? >> you know, i think they're still gathering information at this point, again, trying to make sure they have a thorough investigation before they release details, you know, a piece here and a piece there. >> all right, well, governor, all our thoughts and prayers are with you in the days and the weeks ahead as you and your community come to terms with everything that's happened. governor john hickenlooper, thanks again for joining us this morning. >> well, we appreciate it. thank you. >> we're back in a moment with much more from aurora, colorado, but first, this is "today" on nbc. [ male announcer ] it would be easy for u.s. olympian meb keflezighi to deposit checks at the nearest citibank branch. ♪ like this one. ♪ or this one. ♪ or, maybe this one. ♪ but when it's this easy to use citibank mobile check deposit at home...why would he? ♪ woooo! [ male announcer ] citibank mobile check deposit. eas

i'm talking about the classic booby trap., tell them about the location, hand them your keys or you know they'll go there any way. you come through the front door. there's a fin wire like fishing line. in some cases it will pour a thin line through a clothes pin, sending a charge to the wire which will be the initiator that's going to set off this fireball n the case of an incendiary device, explosion in the case of an ied. that's a classic trip wire setup. note how unsophisticated, lau tech yet diabolical it is. i think it's a testament to the police, they call this a come-on, make it irresistible and get them to charge through the door and get a second cadre of victims. they looked in the apartment a number of different ways. they detected this and they were able to slow this down, back up and take a very tactical and now remote, meaning robots, not people, approach. >> we have new information. a pentagon spokesman has said that u.s. service members apparently among the casualties. >> that would make sense. it's right near

we are told the apartment is booby-trapped. trip wires. what else can youle tell us about the apartment, jay gray? >> reporter: two very important points you make. first of all, he was obviously prepared for a fight, and a massive firefight. that didn't happen. we are told from police forces he surrendered easily when they found him by a car at the back of the theater. put no resistance at all and talked about idea that his apartment was booby trapped. there were explosives inside as the teams got there and began to investigate they found very sophisticated -- their words -- explosives inside the suspect's apartment. they evacuated five buildings there. they could be on that scene as well for hour or so days. it is an intricate set-up there with explosives inside the apartment capable of doing significant damage. they are working to figure out how they will disarm that explosive, the booby-trap, and that's their word, set up inside the apartment. they have a lot of work to do there. the investigation will focus obviously in his apartment b

they refer to it as booby trapped.'ve evacuated five buildings in that area. as you can see, it appears that some members of the bomb squad may be thinking about making an entry into the building. >> that suspect, 24-year-old james holmes gave up without any kind of resistance. he was found outside the theater. police quickly apprehended him. he was wearing the outfit he had worn inside that theater when he committed the shooting. those clothes were taken off of him. we had some footage a little while ago of those clothes laying on the sidewalk, including what appeared to be a bullet-proof vest and a gas mask. then he was taken into custody. nbc's justice correspond pete williams has been following this and tracking it from washington all morning. and let's just remind people, this is a murder investigation. the police in aurora take the lead but the fbi has a role as well. >> the fbi, atf and a number of other agencies will be involved with this. the reason is because there is no federal murder statute. murder is a st

james holmes' apartment was booby trapped to kill. how did the accused shooter get his stockpile of guns and ammunition? stay with us. pirro live from aurora, colorado. for all your latest headlines, fox news .com. >>> make no mistake this apartment was designed i say based on everything i have seen to kill whoever entered it, okay. and who was most likely to enter that location after he planned and executed this horrific i'm? it was going be a police officer, okay. make no mistake about it what was going on there and if you think we are angry we sure as hell are angry. >> judge jeanine: chief oates. the bomb squad disarmed the multiple booby traps at accused shooter's aurora apartment hoping to find clues to his motive but without destroying evidence. >>> guys thanks for being with us this evening. i'm going to start with you, kevin. the fact that he wanted so much to create more havoc at a second crime scene. what does that tell you, kevin, about the mindset of this guy? >> he wanted to make a statement that he would be rear remembe

booby trapped it and then alerted them.ere's no telling what's going on in this guy's mind, but he has been moved to the arapahoe county jail. and apparently he has a lawyer in place. he has, you know, to the degree he's sharing other things with law enforcement, they've been unwilling to let anybody else in on it. >> as far as the money is concerned, because he bought a lot of, what, 6,000 rounds of ammunition, sophisticated weapons. he had explosive devices in there. as far as i know, he was unemployed, 24 years old, had just dropped out of graduate school at the university of colorado in denver. do you have any idea, does anyone yet know where that money was coming from? >> well, we're seeing now many packages came to his apartment. obviously, he bought the assault rifle was expensive, the shotgun was expensive, the glocks were expensive, the 6,000 rounds of ammunition that he bought over the internet, obviously, cost a lot of money. and then the chemicals that apparently are all over his apartment all had to cost a lot.