and left for dead, 18 guy boois, and three solds. they have been working well. this used to have high short interest. now only 4%. that tells me it's left for dead. when you look at the stock at $2.80, it's an option on the long-term fundamentals of the company. but with $2.50 in cash, i think there's potential for a move to the upside. >> he's calling a call-spread risk reversal. we don't use it often, crack open the playbook. in this particular strategy, sell a put and use it to buy a call spread. ideally, go to the short-call strike, that's where you make the money and where the profits are kept. since you are short a put, you must be willing to buy the stock. that said, mr. risk reversal, what's the trade. >> just full disclosure, i bought it today. if it drops to the $2.50 cash level. get it on for a credit. today when it was $2.80. if you sold the january 2014 at 37 cents and bought the january '143-5 call spread, calls for 50 cents and selling one of the january calls for 30 cents, that cost you no money. how do you make money? between $2.50 and $3 you ha