he invited george washington carver -- booker t. washington to the white house, that's who it was, and he was just trownsed for that. he was just reviled for doing that, and yet, at the same time, when he ran on the blue moose party, he tried to keep blacks -- he tried to limit their vote because it wouldn't have been well for him, you know, so it's a very mixed bag. i don't think with roosevelt you can say, well, he was this or that. he seemed to be whatever he was at the moment. anything else? >> one more. >> uh-huh. >> if i could -- >> sure. >> did he ever in when he ran for presidency on his own or later, did he ever go back -- [inaudible] >> yes, yes, he did. in fact, i close the book up to the prologe with this -- prologue with this. he went back and running as vice president, he went out there, and then again in 05 and went back, visited the folks he knew there, picked people out of the crowd to come up on the stage with him, and at one point in the journey, he was crossing the dakotas and went on the back of the train, and there was ju