this book find a readership like square books and myriad books.inally -- [applause] i would also like to thank the people of my community in mississippi for being my home and my inspiration. i am grateful for my family, friends for being and believing and encouraging me and most importantly for giving me life meaning, especially my mother who made her way out of no way, who worked so hard to give me the opportunity to dream this dream and become a writer. i love you all so much. thank you. [applause] [applause] >> wonderful. [applause] this concludes the 2011 national book awards. i'd like to thank harold ogenbrown, all the judges. i'd like to congratulate all the winners and thank you for your beautiful, beautiful speeches, and for all of you finalists who did not win, congratulations to you, too. [cheers and applause] i urge you all to remember those dark, gloomy days before you were nominated for a national book award. [laughter] i have made light of my duties as a master of ceremonies tonight, but it truly has been a wonderful and humbling hon

this book was different than the first book because in the first book i had so many voices and this book everything had to be seen from steven's point of view. when i narrowed it down the story told itself much the process of a writer is elizabeth said, you cannot be afraid to make mistakes. that's the writing process. we are making a lot of mistakes i am constantly rewriting and looking at something and saying, i could say it with less words. i could look at something and say, she would kill me if i did this and i would change it. there are all the things. it's a constant process. no book falls on to the page and the words don't just fall on the page. they may fall on the page and you delete half and start over. you take the one line that works and write around it. that's basically a lot of the way i write. i want to read you some and i guess i should read a little and i want to open up for questions about this book or the other books or what i'm doing now or not doing now. basically, for me i think samurai's garden another reason why love this book. everybody says, what's your favorite

you are on a book tour. it is a long book tour.he research, the right thing, the speaking, -- the writing, the speaking, what you like the most, the least? >> nothing compares with a land to the library. i spend a lot of time in libraries. you find that one document -- it restores you, it keeps you going. it helps to solve a mystery. it brings for two pieces of narrative together. it puts the keystone on a theme. there was a bag of correspondent. it was postcards' she received over a lifetime. they had never been gone through. in that bag was a postcard she had received in 70's from a woman she had known in the 20's. the woman reminded her of a conversation. she had talked about a book to be written on the importance a woman provides inspiration for her husband. it was what i was writing about. that one little postcard kept me going for the next three years. it might be an interview. when i was working on a book, i walked in and he said i am glad to see you. i was apologizing. he said you can write a book about -- you could never w

>> children's books -- >> books about science, i know. many of the books that they published were science books, and i said, why all these science books that seems pretty, you know, if you're trying to teach kids about politics, and she said to teach materialism because she had -- she was a hard core marxist that she had the idea that markism was the only> >> we included the original version of dr. suess, which became popular later. dr. suess i don't believe was affiliated with any political movement other than the democratic party, but he was strongly antifascist and antiracist, and it's beginning as a story of anti-semitism, but it's really about respecting differences, and so that was published, i believe, in red book, and then it became one of those popular stories. there's a piece in there calledded the practical prince seases by jay williams, and this is part of the wave of feminist fairy tales published in the 1970s and 1980s. i think that was a pretty popular book. one of my favorite stories in there is one called the day they par

those books were informative. >> which book has sold the best? >> i think that "cleopatra" has sold more than the others combined. >> y de thing that happened? >> i do not know. i do not know. it is one of those interesting things. you never know what people are going to find in your work. you hope someone might read what you have written in the end and understand or even enjoy it. i am interested in the ideas of women in power, the remnants of the east and west, those teams have certainly hit a home. there's been a lot of interest in terms of female empowerment. a lot of men have come to readings and asked me to sign books for their daughters. going around and poisoning your relatives is not necessarily something you want to encourage, but there's certainly a sense of a smart, canny, smart woman. i think we're always interested in solving a mystery. the human mind works like that. this is a book that said our misconceptions are wrong. we have so many ideas about her that are misplaced. the basic ideas about her our fault. she is not egyptian, sh

book -- i read books saying, oh, this is not a great book, but i have not read books where i felt, oh, they didn't research it well enough. i'm trying to think -- i read a couple books -- what was the book that i last read, a non-fiction book -- no, you know. i'm more of a fan than a critic. i read the perfect storm, and i read he spent years living there in a frozen -- i'm like that's amazing. i wish i could do that, but i couldn't do that, or the wolf of wall street was a book, and i wish he'd come to me, not because it's a bad book. it's a great book, but i would have loved to have written that book, and that's what's it like for me. >> host: she's going to the library, picking up your books, but if she just got one, what one do you recommend? >> guest: that's a tough one. sex on the moon is the one she might een joy the most. i think sex on the moon is the one now people are getting libraries and people love it. i think that one and bringing down the house are the two. ugly americans is, i think, maybe the best writing, but it's a darker story. you have to be -- you have to want t

once he sort of dumped this book on me -- it was never intended to be my book. it was supposed to be my art and his book. one day he came schlepping boxes and said, here, it's your baby, i don't have time. and i was left crushed under the avalanche of his enormous life that was both fascinating and -- it had so many tributaries to it. i had never written a book before. i had written journals and some articles. i mean, i consider myself a visionary, and my head isn't filled with words, it's filled with pictures. but i'm capable of describing the pictures that i see. so anyway, i began this journey of a thousand miles with one step at a time, the shrapnel of his life all over my floor, and trying to put together this puzzle which became so frustrating that i kept running away from it as much as i embraced it. i finally ended up two states away to kind of get my own perspective on things. and i now live in new mexico. which is where the book ended up being finished. in the meantime, i became a magician in las vegas and just did other things. [laughing] it was too m

>> this was the book i wanted to read. it was the book that we wanted to read. errol louis and i were working at the new york sun together as new young columns and we started to talk to our colleagues, the late great jack newfield and saying what he or favorite columns, who are your favorite palm this? ian jimmy breslin his friend both picked the same one called the death of frankie jerome. it hadn't been anthologized since 1924 and it took us weeks to find. jesse angelo are coeditor of the "new york post," we'll begin this process but at the end of the day this was a labor of love, and education with inspiration but it follows a ruler think you should follow when you are putting a book together. you should write the book you want to read. >> john avlon who hoosier favorite newspaper columnist of all-time? you have to have one. >> if i had to pick one i would probably pick jimmy breslin. >> why? >> breslin is the great and murray campton, pete hamill who will be with us later today, they can hit any pitch. they don't write in one genre. ernie cobb is the patron

his book. there are deaths and disease -- which that's the human -- sorry. >> to you feel, the question, i guess, is not would we be better not to have met each other since that's impossible, but are you optimistic about this thing that's going to continue? this 14 93 is not over. it continues. and when i said tiger woods, i meant that jokingly, but in some way we're playing out the dramas of 1493 in this city. >> with right. >> and the concerns with illegal immigration -- >> the whole country. >> that's right. are you optimistic? >> i think, you know, the way i hear your question you're saying is, is the pains of this kind of calamitous, explosive mixing that's been going on for 500 years outweighed by the gains? >> that's right. or do, do we as human beings somehow manage to find some benefit in this calamity that -- >> there's, i guess for me when i think about this and wrestle with it is that the problem is the pains and the gains, the goods and the bads are incommensurate. let me give you

so many of the books are their books because that. even though when i'm not writing because sometimes they don't see the entire book all the way through because i'm rush to get it. but they are so there because as i'm writing and turn on the computer they are sitting on my shoulder. i hear them say, don't do that. or, if you do that, you will be in trouble when you bring did to the group. it's the learning process and they have done that with me for every book. with women of the sill ik they were good in helping with that and samurai of the garden i thought they would say, what's she doing. >> i'm writing a quiet book about a japanese seaside village and the man has tb and the woman had leparcy. it doesn't matter. my editor doesn't get to see it until it's finished but these ladies do. even if she said put it in your drawer and take it out when you are 80, which is around the corner, it would be fine because they wouldn't say they liked it if they didn't kind of thing. i felt comfortable to keep going. i'm not adjust saying this becau

my books were not selling at all. i had written this book on the yangtze river, which did not sell any copies. i have a real problem, will let go to public relations or something like that? and then, suddenly, the possibility of actually making a living out of writing suddenly occurred. "the map that changed the world," was about a geologist, who became the founder of modern geology. i kept believing that this would stop sooner or later. not to go buy jaguar motorcars. i could possibly make a living writing. many people to not do this. the successful writers, they have day jobs usually teaching. this is very much a high wire act. there is no disguising the fact that book sales are going down, advances are going down, how long can this be sustained? i am looking for alternate avenues. i am interested in new technology. and although i am writing this american book, this sounds rather bizarre, but the huge collection of skulls -- i think there is a chance that this will sell very well. in which case, this is another aven

i said i don't want to look at my book case and see that book and cringe in 30 years. she called me from new york and said, i don't know why we are going over the title thing let's keep it the samurai's garden. then i was saying, thank you, god and it became the samurai a garden which in the end worked when you decide hathat samurai is in your class you will see how it works. it works in many, many ways. i'm pleased it stayed the samurai's garden. not of anybody's choice but because it was the one we didn't want to fight over anymore. >> okay. >> [laughter]. >> thank you. i >> i think you wanted something else. >> well, i met the samurai and [laughter] >> thank you. >> thank you, gale so much for coming. >> [applause]. thank you. [music] [applause] good afternoon, everybody. thank you for joining us today. the first thing i will ask you to do is put your hands together in front of our heart and bow slightly and say nanasta it means the good in me greets the good in all of you. who knows where is this is from? india. today we are sharing an form. we are members of the d

>> not another book. but then he said he found out fat client was involved that we don't have a problem with it. we know it is going to be worthy of trust and confidence. >> can't get much better than that. >> after you left the service you did mostly security work but lived for a while in the dallas area. were you here when the word first got out of there was going to be a museum about the kennedy assassination here in town? >> no, i worked for ibm for 27 years i started -- i left july july 1964 and i ended up working on law enforcement and intelligence systems and helped design the national crime information center for the cia and mobile terminals fingerprint scanners. my frustration and i think one of the reasons i left is it is almost it seemed like a feudal job unless we had the type of equipment needed, so i worked quite a while on matt and i made a call on the secret service because the fbi system could check for one of the people and we have no way of keeping track of where these potential threat

in books you can get away with that but my books are very written like screenplays. i get attacked for that as well. i am always thinking of the movie when i write. i visualize every scene. i imagine justin timberlake doing it all. that is how i sit down and write. when i write it is that if i am writing a movie and book form. they are different. people who write screenplays didn't usually write books. >> host: michael tweets and what are your upcoming project storylines? >> guest: good question. michael is in boston. i think i know him. he is an incredible fashion designer. he works in boston. he wants me to tell secrets. i'm working on a big new project but i am not at liberty to say what it is about. it might be a female main character which would be new for me. i have never written a female main character before. if i write that book next that will be it but i am not sure. i haven't decided yet what my next book is but i have projects and working on a couple television shows. i have scripted show i am working on and i have a show, reality type documentary show wh

i would be happy to sign books. bill would be happy to sign his books. clarence will speak first. >> thank you. i tell people i really timed my book to come out just now. i said i tell people i really times my book to come out just now, when there's this tremendous attack on teachers. i mean, to say that there is an attack on teachers everywhere is no secret. obviously wisconsin is just one place, and one can talk about what is taking place in ohio, what is taking place in indiana, what is going on in my home state in new jersey. in fact, my wife is a new jersey school teacher and last year her union sent her an e-mail stating that the union was out war with the governor, the governor has called union leaders thugs, and so there's this tremendous attack particularly on teachers' unions, and it's not just republicans who are involved in this attack. one can look at what took place in new jersey and know that the democratic party joined in with the governor going after teachers in terms of limiting collective bargaini

why in that book to start with 1898. it marks a moment when the united states really announces this dolph on the page. but a lot of powers, major international that is a new breaking point but the civil war >> did henry kissinger purchase a peak in your book? >> i spent a lot of time interviewing him and she's an amazing figure. i have most feelings about him as most people do but i don't think anyone who can not laugh and i share that respect. >> professor at duty. his most recent book liberty -- garden in america's nation-building from the founders to obama. >> book tv saddam of university of texas austin professor to talk about his book and the israeli secret service and against its part of book tv's college serious. >> you are watching booktv on c-span2 and we are the university of texas in austin interviewing professors who are also joining us. he is the author of this book of the israeli secret services and the struggle against terrorism. professor, first of all what

participate in your book, your '07 book about him? >> i did. i spent a lot of time interviewing with him and talking with him and getting to know him reasonably well. and he's an amazing figure. i have mixed feelings about him as most people do. but i don't think anyone who spent time with him can help but respect his intellect and his seriousness, and i share that respect. >> jeremy suri, professor at ut. his most recent book, liberty surest garden, american nation-building from the founders to obama. >> the c-span.org home page is now easier to use. the new design features 11 video choices making it easier for you to watch today's events live and recorded. there's a section on the home page to access our

head and shoulders above the other books worth of books to respect.it is a book eminently readable, terrifically entertaining and his substantive issues in a way that makes everyone or should make everyone a reason to book think about it. in a shameless plug there is a poster back there but will be in october next month he'll university to feature an highlight another iconic figure in american literature, mark twain. it is a fundraiser. if you're in that part of the country want to go, please do. all funds could've the mark twain museum and in this country we can celebrate readers take mark twain and harper lee were doing something wrong. john has agreed to the up and can participate if he wants to. if we get things come to let us know i'm sure. i had a series of questions here, but i left questions for which i refloat tyler. call: anyone person on the panel to you. please feel free to jump in. i leave this question and i'm going to distribute it. i was aware portrayed in popular fiction changed in 50 years since atticus finch? atticus finch as the la

the book is out there. [laughter] he is gone, so that i'm very proud of it and most important with me, it was all that he hoped for and really knew it. he never doubted it. >> wow am i love that. that is a wonderful introduction. we will delve into the book a little bit after we do a round. let's go to chris buckley next, who was a very close friend of joe heller's later in life and as i understand it, i understand actually from you that the two of you exchanged hundreds of letters on top of having many meetings in person. so tell us about joseph heller's, the guy's guy, and in. i would love to know he was funny in person. >> well we didn't go to girlie clubs together. valerie heller is with us in the audience, but i didn't just say that for her benefit. we are coming together, which is odd for this reason. i reviewed for "the new yorker" the sql to "catch-22", a book called closing time, which is a sort of mad, jumbled novel and it is used to -- yosarian 40 odd years later. i couldn't resist quoting the li

book. that is where you have more censorship. >>host: what do you teacher at the university of texas julia mickenberg? >> a survey of cultural history 1865 through present also a course of the 1960's. i teach a course on children's literature and american culture. currently teaching day corzine expatriate him political pilgrims living abroad and i am always inventing new course is because i want to learn things. >>host: your books tales from the left "tales for little rascals" to consider yourself for radical? >> i sympathize with those who were involved and i have their romantic sensibility but i don't really consider myself a radical. i hate to meetings and i also think that people are too greedy for something like socialism to work. it is nice in theory but i do support the movement certain they for environmental or economic justice but i tend to be critical of any type of dog month or ideology. if you take one type of line it is more at a foreign to think critically but i think of my ow

i think it's the favorite book of almost everybody you meet. >> the first time in my life that the book had sort of captured me. that was exciting. i didn't realize that literature could do that. >> i remember reading a copy of my aunt's in jamaica queens. it was the first book ever written by a white writer that discussed racism in ways that was complicate and sophisticated. -- complicated and sophisticated. >> a touchstone in american literary and social history. it's a story gently tugged at the issues of racism. >> she was a champion of people who helped us get liberated from racism in this country. >> harper lee's first and only novel. >> a masterpiece is masterpieces not because they're flawless but because they tap into something essential to us, at the heart of who we are and how -- >> a masterpiece and a mystery. >> of course, one kept hoping and waiting for the next novel. sadly, that never came. >> i cannot imagine what drove harper to silence. >> thank you. i prefer to pass. >> what did you say? >> well, i have nothing relevant to say concerning the case. however, when i hav

books. books. his current book and one will be discussing today is called "lions of the west," which is a history of the period that we know as manifest destiny. the great period of expansion where america fulfill its continent of destiny and became the nation that we know today. but, of course, at a price that makes some people a little and easy when they think about how we achieved that greatness. so, we are just going to have a conversation for about 30 minutes and then we will open it up and have you folks ask questions, if you would like to. first, we want to thank the texas book festival for having us here. we want to thank all the volunteers and all the people who work so hard to make this a premier event in the united states, and a premier event for people who love books and work in the world of books. my first question is, is one that always intrigues me. i love dedications to books. your book is dedicated to mrs. elizabeth rogers who taught you american history. what's the back sto

magnificent book.thank you very much. [applause] >> i'd like to add a special thanks to the library. both for bringing us here and for existing. this is a great place. you should use it. [applause] >> is a nonfiction author of book you'd like to see on booktv? send us an e-mail or twitter. >> here are this week's best selling nonfiction books according to publishers weekly as of november 1.

and there are a lot of corrupt lawyers in my books. there are a lot of nasty people in my books. there are a lot of lawyers who are not portrayed in a particularly favorable way. but the centers of my story are two small time criminal defense attorneys who work on michigan street. and if you get accused of a crime, those are the people you want to call. >> that's my approach. and they're both former public defenders, right? >> yes, they are. they are both former public defenders here in san francisco. without giving away too much of the story, there may be a return at some point to that particular office where they would, of course, be working for you. >> anytime. [laughing] there seems to be such a huge disconnect, you know, between what you see on tv and even what you read about. most of the tv shows like "law & order" you have a judge who's eminently fair, a prosecutor who is completely ethical, a defense attorney who doesn't show up half the time. these images really result -- i know this as a public defender, because the portrayals of public defenders are usually negative. w

has a second book.dy here i feel sitting here all of you have one book in you. whether it's a family story or your story whether it's ancestors whether it's your history you want to write about. but it's the second one that's hard. i felt that when i turnod the computer and thought, now i have to write book number 2. i had in mind that i wanted to write something very different from women of the silk that was strictly about the feminist chinese women during the turn of the century and i wanted to write about my japanese culter. i didn't have the story or the culture unfortunately because i was born in san francisco, half chinese and half japanese but raised in the chinese culture. when it was time to write the second book and i knew i wanted to explore my japanese side it was going to be difficult in the way that i didn't know the culture. right away i had to learn a lot. it was something that was not engrained in me besides the story. i sat down and thought about the story my mother told me about her b

book fair. it is the big street fair here on the campus of miami-dade. of three events still happening we have another call and with jim lehrer. we still have some webcast happening at booktv.org isabel wilkerson will, then chat -- jeht mahal to talk about herblock you may remember her at the national book festival and then jim lehrer will be speaking in chapman hall as well and in the miami book fair 2011 concludes with author michael moore at 6:00 p.m. eastern that is nine booktv.org as well. one of the co-founders is ms. caplan and he joins us now on our set. how did this get started and when? >> this is the 28 the book fair and it was started because the president of miami-dade college called a number of us together in an attempt to bring life back to downtown miami was suffering from rough economic times and it is thought if we could bring literary culture to downtown we might be able to unite the community at the same time to bring some focus. >> host: the owner of books & books and your i

i don't think it's a bad book, but i think it's a popular book. it's entertainment, and god knows it made a great movie. made almost a better -- well, as good a movie as the book, let's say. and then there's the kind of, there's the joseph conrad movies that certain directors made into great movies out of great books. it can be done. i think every book is different, and every writer is different. for instance, dickens is famously cinematic, and everyone who writes about dickens says the same boring thing, and i'm now saying it now. but when you read a dickens novel, you can see it as a movie. and many of the movies are wonderful. like "great expectations." >> here's what i thought just to slip sideways for a minute. it took me 30 years to realize that "the graduate" was e polltous just like it took all of us a long time to realize that the wizard of oz is ulysses -- >> i still hadn't realized that. [laughter] >> well, think of -- >> i like it. >> they always have the same ending. you bring me the head of frey doe garcia or the grail or the witch's

they don't review the book. the near times janet has a huge problem with me it does not like hell i write nonfiction. i find it comical i read them with enjoyment because she has so much hatred for me but it? me up. my readers understand what they're getting into. it is the true story is a thriller that happens to be true as long as imf front this undersigned-- understandable but there are plenty of nonfiction books written where a mean character dies 500 years ago. there is the interviews there the author house to put himself into it and you make your best guess but that does not change the fact it is not fiction. >> host: welcome to booktv this is our "in-depth" program the monthly author interview with one of their and their body of work. this month we have ben mezrich author of six nonfiction books. beginning 2002 with "bringing down the house", "ugly americans", et "busting vegas" "rigged" coming the accidental billionaires' coming and his most recent thomas sex on the moon. this is your opportunity to talk

it's the only country that gets two chapters in this book. up until what happened this year with fukushima and the nuclear accident and the arab spring, just both with big impacts on energy. many happened. the other thing is what i wanted to do, this book is more ambitious than the prize as ambitious as i thought that was in writing it. this trying to cover the whole energy spectrum and how the pieces fit together. it was a big topic to take on, and as often happens, you found out you bit of more than you expected. >> host: it's interesting you say "fit together." after reading, i think 700-plus pages, i won't count the footnotes. >> guest: thank you. [laughter] it makes the book shorter. >> host: a lot shorter. >> guest: very perceptive of you. >> host: it's hard to see how they fit together; right? if we continue, you know, to find oil through unconventional sources that has expanded our proven rereceivers, at least, then what prompts us to go to the renewable route, which, as you know, don't get as much bang for your buck in terms of energ

, different categories, a medical book, novel, book of poetry, book of history and he would read each one every night for 20 minutes and then switched to the next one and that way he was getting a liberal arts education as life continued through his experiences. a gorgeous as you know helped eliminate yellow fever in the panel which made it possible for us to proceed with building the panama canal. next question comes from the audience at the national book festival. >> i want to express my gratitude for your positive comments about teachers early on i have a background in history and i also enjoy reading your book. my question though is as you look at our students, one of five lessons from the history of america or otherwise that our students need to know before they graduate from high school. >> five lessens our students in history need to know before they graduate from high school. well, the first 1i would tell them is what i was told by a graduate students when i was a sophomore in college and not only had i never forgotten it, it changed my whole point of view about history to the

we provide electronic books and we sell electronic books on our website. it's really easy. we just click. we don't have to do anything. the american booksellers association does all the heavy lifting. but it's a minor part of our business. our folks literally around the world have become accustomed to the product, the book, the bound book that's signed by the author. the author who wrote that book, wrote in your copy. there are many bookstores around the country who are the very core of their neighborhood or their little part of the city. and that's where folks congregate. so i think those two areas of book-selling will be around long after we're gone. >> now, martha menchaca talks with booktv about her book, naturalizing mexican immigrants. professor menchaca was interviewed at the university of texas at austin as part of booktv's college series. >> and now on your screen is university of texas professor martha menchaca whose book is called naturalizing mexican immigrants. one of her books i should say is called naturalizing mexican immigrants. she teaches anthropology her

"the alice behind wonderland," i counted 29 books. -- 21 books. you had more before that? >> i am sorry to disappoint you. i think that is it. >> the one that is on top here, "atlantic: the biography of the ocean." i understand that the paperback is out now. >> yes. in the beginning of november. >> what led to this book? one of the statistics in your book is that something like the ocean has been around for 170 million years. why did you find interest in this? >> i sort of knew how the ocean was formed. as a geologist. and people who are in the business of plate techtonics know when the ocean will cease to be. i did not need a pick -- need to do before it ceased to be butit will be 100 million years before it disappears. i grew up by the atlantic. i crossed this and it occurred to me one crosses it so easy, some people do anyway, we have come to disregard this. this is merely an expense of distance. it is just a nuisance that keeps usgetting to new york as quickly as we would like. and i thought, what i knew about this, this was a romantic and bea

i would be happy to sign books. bill will be happy to sign his book. clarence, you will speak first. >> thank you. >> i tell people i really timed my book to come out just now. i said, tell people i really timed my book to come out just now when there is this tremendous attack on teachers. to say that there is an attack on teachers everywhere is no secret. obviously wisconsin is just one place and i want to talk about what is taking place in ohio and about what is taking place in indiana and what is going on in my home state of new jersey and in fact my wife is a new jersey schoolteacher. last year her union center and e-mail stating that the union was at war with the governor. the governor has -- and so there is this tremendous attack but reticular lay on teachers unions. and it is not just republicans who are involved in this attack. one can look at what took place in new jersey and the democratic party joined in with the governor in going after teachers in terms of limiting collective bargaining and that is also chu and other places such as massachu

>> got the american book award. >> hinojosa: got the american book award.but a lot of people, again, know you as the writer who brought to forth this story of the yuma 14? >> yes, right. >> hinojosa: just so people can remember, that was the really horrific story of how many pele w got stuckn a... well, you tell. tell the story. >> it was may, 2001, and it was a group of men from veracruz who were recruited by coyotes, by smugglers, to come to the united states allegedly to work picking oranges in florida. >> hinojosa: which is another thing that people don't realize-- that there's a lot of active recruitment of mexican workers... >> oh, yeah. >> hinojosa: ...to come. it's not like suddenly they just wake up and say, "i'm going to..." there are people recruiting. >> oh, well, you know that and i know that, but lou dobbs might not know that. i mean, i always tell people on tour, "you know, being mexican does not mean you have an illegal immigration gland in your body." at 13 years old, your body doesn't start pumping hormones that tell you how to cross the b

>> it is a good book. and americans who are pessimistic should read it because it will get you out of your pessimism. it's good in two ways. first it shows that there are places in america that are learning into the future with confidence, and second, it describes what they do so that you could imagine wherever you live adopting some of that and putting the and where you live. not everybody seemed to become the silicon valley or the technical cluster around mit or have 100 dissimulation companies the way that orlando does. i was their last night talking about it. not everybody can be the center of the genomic research the way san diego is. but everybody can do something. when we get the global initiative meeting for the united states last summer, the company called on shore said they would create a thousand jobs in joplin misery which had been devastated by the tornado with services ulcerous to other countries in the smaller community and more rural settings and if they were going to 12,000 more jobs in th

>> her most famous book with the american way of death and she wrote that book in 1963. it was a book that abuses of the funeral industry, which at that point was doing a kind of publicity campaign that everybody really needed to create a funeral that was parallel to the american way of life. you know that keeping up with the joneses was very much in the public sphere and so one of the great things was that she parodied this concept that we had to keep, you know, making larger and larger funerals and more expensive funerals. she parallels it in some ways to the cadillac which was you know, very popular for wealthy people to drive at that time. she said, why do we need spins? it's a racket. why do we need spins on our funerals? let's have funerals without spins. she began to get involved in the funeral co-op as an industry. that kind of movement. and discovered that there were an awful lot of people who were also interested in coming to terms with the idea that funerals could be less expensive, that in many ways people were being exploited and of course the funeral indust

even my first book, written in an era before he books have been released in the e book format and away that takes the vantage of the medium. the e book of chaos has an atlas with and some video, visual illustrations of the scientific content that do some things i wish i could have done in the printed book. but i certainly share the concern of librarians and booksellers and anyone else who has a fondness for the old delivery format of the printed book which in so many ways is a beautiful and effective technology that is perfect for the purpose to which was intended. >> host: chaos, older boat was a finalist for the national book award. what is the premise of chaos? >> guest: chaos was about a new science, still a very active branch of science attempting to explore pieces of the universe that appear to be 5 orderly treatment by traditional science. parts of the universe that included turbulence in fluid flows, that included erratic behavior of dynamic systems and everything from economic systems to the human heart arrhythmia. >> host: next call from mr. gleick from jerry in philadelphia.

i would appreciate that and i also like your book i saw you last time i had to check out this book i am reading and again. >> host: thank you very much. >> guest: i appreciate you reading my book. first of all,, question number one, of black america is large and internally divided over various things. many people in black america are immigrants from africa or the caribbean and there are certain tensions between than native-born black americans and black people who are immigrants from other place is. sometimes to the attention becomes rather ugly and use the a little bit of that in a commentary about barack obama truly a black american that his father was a black african as opposed to a black american. i think has subsided somewhat as the caller indicated that was a topic of conversation at all across the united states they deal with the attention but on a question why i went to princeton university, because my older brother went there and it was recommended to me and my older brother suggested that i do. i am very happy i went there. it is wonderful. the third question on occupy wall

and you can read about it in the book. finally, the president, gerald, of the new federal reserve bank, wrote in a letter and said look, sometimes they take a few meals, and a literal handful, that's a direct quote from his letter, well, henry hit the ceiling. because they're supposed to be investigating. the information we got, it is kind of a joke. and that's probably why banks like citibank had 50 billion off their main record. where would the examiners? with a dining out with the people they are investigating. then we got information that the los angeles branch of the san francisco federal reserve bank, which has much of the currency that comes into the fed, they store all the new currency from the bureau of engraving and printing as well as all the money that the banks don't want to hold on the premises. they all ship it to the federal reserve banks. and a public number that he put out on a press release, i can use it, is that they had 80 billion in cash. we got information that the accounting records there were corru