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guest: i do a lot of work for a guy named t boone pickens, of the pickens plan, into natural gas. we made a decision to move the operations away from congress to the various state governments, because that is where you can actually get to people that make things happen. host: what are you doing? guest: we are helping governors and their appointees understand that natural gas is enormously -- there's no perfect fuel, but given a choice between importing oil to make gasoline to and using domestically produced natural gas which is cleaner, cheaper, and all of the other stuff, but we could not get the congress to move at all. we have been relatively successful in getting states to join in a compact, to issue orders that they will issue orders to buy heavy trucks, and state vehicles that will be likely to use natural gas as their fuel. our hope is that will run across the country. i think that people have sensed that, that prices are so stuck that you cannot get anything done. they are moving their activities from capitol hill to the executive branch offices because they are still havi

guest: i do a lot of work for a guy named t boone pickens, of the pickens plan, into natural gas. we made a decision to move the operations away from congress to the various state governments, because that is where you can actually get to people that make things happen. host: what are you doing? guest: we are helping governors and their appointees understand that natural gas is enormously -- there's no perfect fuel, but given a choice between importing oil to make gasoline to and using domestically produced out of gas which is cleaner, cheaper, and all of the other stuff, that we could not get the congress to move at all. we have been relatively successful in getting states to compact,a contact -- that they will issue orders to buy heavy trucks, and state vehicles that will be likely to use natural gas as their fuel. our hope is that will run across the country. -- i think that people have sensed that, that prices are so stuck that you cannot get anything done. they are moving their activities from capitol hill to the executive branch offices because they are still having people t

only one said not reductive at all. .here are a couple you have guys like t boone pickens and diego rodriguezpartner. they said to use your people wisely. t boone walks around every -- have youwith got anything? he hears tips, he hears ideas. he can be much more reductive. >> i find when i stop and talk to people, i become that much less productive. >> if you are stephen cohen and you walk into someone's office, that might be helpful. >> some good old-fashioned conversation. >> rodriguez says a similar thing, and he says that you never stand when you could be sitting. he says, never e-mail when you could be having a phone call, never have a phone call when you can video chat. he only uses e-mail when he has to. >> i agree with that. i don't know about the video chat thing because i am not fully embrace that. >> i think -- >> it is much better than e- mail. you get that contact and that direct connection. there are people, you have people like trish, you said you are a big fan of using the airline applications. what that they done for you in terms of making your flights? can i make my flight?

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. >> but you sound like boone pickens. lly. 18-wheelers at the he said that would be a revolutionary move. >> 20% of the oil we use in the transportation sector is 20%. >> 20%? >> yes. and a good new engine has that the power, has the legs you need but we need to put in the infrastructure. there are about 350 truck stops across the interstates and that is doable in terms of putting the tanks in and get the 18-wheelers on natural gas and push electrification and disengage ourselves from this global market. >> admiral, katty kay in washington. what do you think is the most obvious natural security implications of the shale gas boone in the states and if it's toward energy independence for america? >> it's helped up in some small ways. recently, our ability to put the sanctions on iran was made partially possible by the fact that the u.s. is putting more oil into the market and, therefore, we could pull out a billion, a billion and a half from the market, which was what iran was contributing. five years earlier, if you talked

guest: i do a lot of work for a guy named t boone pickens, of the pickens plan, into natural gas. a decision to move the operations away from congress to the various state governments, because that is where you can actually get to people that make things happen. host: what are you doing? guest: we are helping governors and their appointees understand that natural gas is enormously -- there's no perfect fuel, but given a choice between importing oil to make gasoline to and using domestically produced out of gas which is cleaner, cheaper, and all of the other stuff, that we could not get the congress to move at all. we have been relatively successful in getting states to compact,a contact -- that they will issue orders to buy heavy trucks, and state vehicles that will be likely to use natural gas as their fuel. our hope is that will run across the country. -- i think that people have sensed that, that prices are so stuck that you cannot get anything done. they are moving their activities from capitol hill to the executive branch offices because they are still having people that are