he said i can get the $13 billion. >> he's the guy that t boone pickens goes to.now has heard of him. >> here doesn't care about publicity. he just cares about doing deals and having power. >> he was the shadowy figure that those of us in the press never saw. you just heard. >> it was milken's genius. that is the correct word. it created the market and fuelled the take over phenomenon. >> we romanticized the characters. they are fat cats's first cousins to the financial manipulators, robert barons of the late 19th century. >> they are out there trying to make a buck by doing nothing and putting people out of work. >> economists agree that some unemployment and hardship is unavoidable in making the united states lean and mean again, but the specialists are called corporate restructuring. >> they need a kick to become more efficient, less entrenched and that will probably do the economy a lot of good. >> thursday they fended off a hostile take over bit. >> they took on a huge debt. plann plants were closed and the company pays interest to 17 banks worldwide. >> they