and it was really juss a bootsy collins impression.t bootsy collins than i am at michael steele. and so it, it started as that and then just kind of evolved into this hing where i think, you know, the first time i did it then i think everrbody became happy with bibbles and, and so then it -- it just sort of came back and came back. >> and if anything i really have a lot of respect for the people who really do muppet stuff. like because itts not, it's not easyy like because they park you behind the desk and they're3 like alright,,do this thing. but you're usually like upú like this and you're looking down at a monitor here and3 your eck is craned and your arm's up. and, and the puppet, it's not like they make it easy to do that. like your thumbs get really tired. and but it was -- it was -- it was fun and i'm glad that people eejoyed it. >> and you got to, to do it in front of him. >> i did, yes. >> in the end he came on the program and he essentially debated himself or talked to himself in, in puppet form. >> he talked to himsell and i