finally, jack mayer, executive vice president at booz allen hamilton.we've been glad to have jack part of a brookings efforts over the years as well, just as bob and others have kindly help those previously. jack runs the military health of their program at booz allen hamilton. has had a distinguished career there on issues ranging from energy policy to homeland security. he was at the congressional budget office. he's a west point grad and former army officer. bob hale is a former navy officer should've sued to force with a great deal of expense across all these issues. i realize i went on a little bit but that they deserve a little bit of praise and and you deserve to your some of their credentials as we approach this topic. bob, without further ado if you could put the military health care problem within broader dod budget perspective for us. >> thank you and thanks to judge the. great job of a one to many things the health care system needs to do. i want to talk about it more from a budgetary perspective, and the first one want to make, they been si

we have a sickening reliance on security contractors, the likes of booz allen hamilton holding companiesxthat snowden worked for. security, the people that we , are not tax dollars really secure themselves, so they are at our attack vectors. do you understand? >> i do. it seems like we are in a bad place. >> we are in a bad place. we are in a really bad place, and as time goes on, you are going to continue to hear stories like, oh, the chinese government has infiltrated the post office, or the russian government has infiltrated the sewage system. this is going to continue to happen until we change our perspective on security. we need to stop treating security as a contract job and accept security as a way of life that we need to think about. all right? we all, individually, have the responsibility to focus on our own security. there is no reason why you should have an intern handle your e-mail. you should be able to handle your own e-mail. >> can you imagine this? it is said, and i have no way to judge, that you were really, really good. >> i will leave it up to people to decide. imagine

jack runs the military health care program at booz allen hamilton. also had a distinguished career on issues from energy policy to homeland security. he too was at the congressional budget office. he is a west point grad and former army officer. bob heal is former navy officer i said before. we have great experience on all these issues. i realized i went on a little bit but i thought they they deserved some praise and you deserved to hear their credentials as we approach this topic. bob, put military health care in the broader dod budget perspective. >> thank you for chance to be here. military health system needs to do, i want to talk about more from budgetary perspective. the first point i want to make there have been significant changes in military health care that actually slowed the growth in health care spending significantly. just a few examples. five years ago the administration allowed the department of defense to use va drug pricing schedule, significantly reducing its costs. 9 congress allowed the use of medicare rates for small hospitals