thank you. >> commissioner borden? >> hi, i happen to go by two interesting events, one of which was sf hon dough at the corner of innis had a reopening event, it was a family that had that facility for more than 40 years, so they modernized it and hon dough is making a great investment of them being an anchor and them staying in the neighborhood, it was nice to see a community benefits district and a civic center, different merchants from around the city to work with this business that had a lot of support throughout the immediate community and the family, they were part of such a community and one of the local restaurants had provided the food and the wine for the event, it's nice that a family owned business that's been around for a long time is investing back to the community, as many of all you know, they need 34 million dollars to complete their project, they were at 33 million dollars and are in the process of trying to raise their final million dollars to make their project happen. they really need to make that

. >> commissioner borden? >> this project has certainly come aways. it's ridiculous in my personal view that there weren't these kind of conversations before. at this point i don't think that we're ready to take up this project. i think that there is a lot of work to be done. the adjacent buildings points out a lot of problems and mr. schoolneck pointed out things are moving, but there are things to be done. i don't think you can necessarily arrive at a quick resolution after so much time and effort has been put insofar. it's a shame that a lawsuit is what was required for the project sponsor to work the community. i think this seems to be heading in the right direction, but it's certainly not there. i think there is a lot more dialogue that needs to happen between the developer and the community. i don't think there is an urgent need for us to take this up in the immediate future. i recognize that the termination of this might be a different project, but it's fundamentally still a market-rate housing project of similar type and scope. so i can unders

very interesting. >> thank youz%( :í. >> vice president wu: commissioner borden. >> commissioner bordenst love the extensive nature, the treatment of the building as well as the space. i)zjpuiñ think that while therea place for statues and singular art installations the way the art has been so interwoven throughout the entire project, providing so many elements to the actual, to the intangible i think is incredible, and i wish -- i would like to hold this up as an example of what i would like to see more of because there's so much visual for the eyes but so much more to that, that's been creative here. i guess it sounds to me like they gave you license to kind of be diverse in coming up with -- >> partiall partially. we work together. that's what's so great about this team. with glenn and myself and other members, it's been a really good experience. >> commissioner borden: well thank you. >> vice president wu: commissioner hillis hngeddle i want to thank you, i think this is great and thank you for coming to explain it to us because you bring it to life and thank you to for responding -

. >> commissioner borden? >> just quickly for the benefit to have commission, it is on your calendar today as an action item, and it's being placed on the historic preservation commission, their calendar that's being released today for february 6 as an action item, just for your information. >> commissioner borden? >> for the members, to benefit the members of the public, the position's going to post tomorrow the 1st of february, for the commission's secretary position, we have gone through the process with finalizing that description, it will be posted on the dhr website and throughout various publications that any member of the public can e-mail staff to find out about, you will probably see it in publications you will receive, the publication will happen until march 15th and candidates who make the at least minimum requirements will be asked to take the manager's test through the department of dhr and that in combination with their application will ultimately will be what our sub-committee evaluates, the po

>> present. >> commissioner borden? commissioner hillis? >> here. >> commissioner moore? >> here. >> and commissioner sugaya? >> here. >> commissioners, first up is consideration of items proposed for continuance. i have one item under your regular calendar, item number 7, case no. 2012.1183tz, amendments to the planning code to establish the fillmore street neighborhood commercial district (board file no. 12-0814). it is proposed to be continued to april 4th, 2013. >> is there any public comment on the item proposed for continuance? seeing none, commissioners? commissioner moore. >> welcome to supervisor [speaker not understood] district and i fully support the continuance. move to continue. >> on that motion to continue, commissioner antonini. >> aye. >> commissioner hillis? >> aye. >> commissioner moore? >> aye. >> commissioner sugaya? >> aye. >> commissioner wu? >> aye. >> and commission president fong? >> aye. >> so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously +6 to -0. commissioners, that will place you on your consent calendar. all matters listed here under

. >> the clerk: commission antonini, aye, borden, aye, hillis, aye, moore, aye, wu, aye. 7-0. consenticle considered to be retoon by the planning commission and will be acted on by a single roll call vote. there will be no discussion unless the public requests in which case it will be removed from the consent calendar and considered as a separate item at this or a future hearing. you have two items commissioners, item 2 case 2012.05952(c) and item 3, 2012.6069(e) request for qunel use authorization. note that on november 29 following public testimony the commission closed the public hearing and adopted attempt to improve with -- with clear gazing and continue the item to today's date. >> president fong: is there any public comment on the two items on the consent calendar? seeing none, commissioner antonini. >> commissioner antonini: move to approve. >> second. >> the clerk: on that motion, commissioner antonini, aye, commissioner borden, aye, hillis, wu, aye, fong, aye. so moved that passes unanimously. commissioners, we are going to call items 9(a) and b out of order. at 4 i

. >> commissioner borden. >> yeah. i think what is issue that i sort of think of is there's no looikt in the back but there's restaurants that don't have lights in the back by they're open in the day. i'm for - i just want to make sure we don't have the additional noise in the back with addition to the restaurant noise there already. >> commissioners you do have a motion in the second that's on the floor. >> commissioner. >> i would say that even if we're requesting the windows to be fixed i will have to have significant vents and equipment to move the air. i don't want to bring in noisy restaurant equipment. i happen to leave very near a restaurant and you're talking about the backyard being an issue. we should send the owner the applicant back and to listen to what we're saying and make a workable situation. that would mean we would support the application but one with this additional workup. the party it the restaurant project it is extremely important but we're stuck on what is a reasonable deal closed in or whatev

. >> president fong: commissioner borden. >> commissioner borden: i think the major mistake was theyalled it a charter and what you wanted to say was department core values or mission. i work for a large corporation. our core values are dedication to every client success, and -- that matters for our company and the world, and trust and personal responsibility in all relationships. doesn't say we're a technology services company, it doesn't say we sell things. my point is that those values are how we operationallize the business that we do. i think the attempt of the department was to -- operationallize the business you do. it's more about culture not about actual tactics. we have a hard time having these discussions because yes, there was misuse of the word charter. maybe core value would have been a better use of the word and i understand why people glommeddfx onto that but i think there is a youthful aspect of deciding the culture of what you want to be in the organization, and how you -- when you operationallize implementing public record or, you know, reacting to sunshine request

commissioner borden? >> i think this is a great plan, it has a lot of interesting projects you're working on, can you talk about the food clusters work that you are getting grant funding for? i'm curious about it, does that include the food trucks, is that specific for food production? >> it's looking in general at the whole kind of food policy issues and we have a couple of grants, we have staff that is spending a quarter of her time to look at establishing a food policy for the city, so we're getting off the ground and defining it, but it's meant to be at the starting point a comprehensive point of how food is provided and grown and food deserts and all those issues in the city. >> i would like to have that brought to the commission, the same for the urban forest public education campaign, that sounds interesting. all of these are really interesting. i mean, i know we heard about some of the various programs, but to have an opportunity to hear a little bit about the work and how it's being scoped, i thi

>> aye. >> commissioner borden? >> aye. >> commissioner hillis? >> aye. >> commissioner moore? >> aye. >> commissioner sugaya? commissioner wu? >> aye. >> and commission president fong? >> aye. >> so moved, commissioners. that motion passes 6 to 1. there is nothing further, commissioners, on this calendar. you may adjourn. >> do we need a motion to adjourn this? >> no. >> commission is going to take about a five-minute break here and we'll come back with the regular calendar. >>please stand by; meeting in recess shortly. >> president hwang: good evening. welcome to thezs!:# december 12 2012 meeting of the san francisco board of0xjh appeals. president chris hwang, franknnjy fung, commissioner. to my left is deputy city attorney robert brian who will provide thec i'm cynthia goldstein the board's executive director. we are joined by city departments5c%( qez that have cases before the board. scott sanchez, zoning administrator, and planning department and planning commission, stey, representing the department of building inspection john quawng. the board requests you turn off9k%z!

tom scott, tom borden, ken mcgary, may wo ng and roland labron. but any other member of the public who would like to speak on this item please come forward. again, this is on item number ten. are the folks who signed the speaker cards please come up? >> go ahead, sir. >> hi, i'm tom borden and i am with sf urban riders and another group whose name shall not be mentioned but i just wanted to review some history on the park. and basically my premise is that mancel is a bright that has been on the park by the transit planners and this has been realized since the first master plan was put together in 1983 and a lot of things have changed over the course of these master plans in the 1983 master plan, they said that mancell something had to be done about mancel and the plan proposed dropping it down on the north side of the ridge, and that did not seem too workable. and then in the 1985 master plan, they decided to close mancell from the two ends of shelly and force people to drive around that horse shoe of shelly to get around the park and that was dro

commissioner borden? >> yes, to the zoning administrator, for noise ordinance, what are the requirements around noise and i know it's after a certain point in the evening. i have live near nightclubs, bars and all the rest and see this issue all the time, where most of san francisco businesss do not have air conditioning. it gets very warm and people open windows and obviously sound travels out, because even if you have people at your private home and your windows are open, your neighbors can hear that typically. what are the sound ordinance -- noise ordinance sort of rules around the sound travel for any business, i guess? >> i don't know all the details specifically. it's enforced by -- it's enforced by several departments depending on the type of sound it is. in this case it's the entertainment commission and they have someone experienced in using the sound equipnt

commissioner borden >> here's what i'm not - i mean members of the public probably don't know we're not allowed to speak outside this quorum. at this point we're public -i'm fine with continuing it and i'm trying to figure out what people want. i don't think we're clear on that. now by letting the audience know on the one hand on moving forward on this item sometime needs to clearly state their opinion and i could weigh in and this is sort of new information and i tend to think that i would rather have president fong here to hear the item and so there's a full consideration of the commission >> move to continue with the preference not more than 2 weeks if the calendar for the next two weeks are open. >> commissioners we may continue at your pleasure the calendars are light on the fourteenth. i would recommend that because your continuing on item 14. is there any comment on the continuance. did anybody second it? >> sierra club and i just want to say thank you please continue this. this will give me an opportunity to get ahold of the e i r. i would be thrilled and i hope i am as lucky as

commissioners on that motion to continue commissioner borden, commissioner si good and commissioner wu >> i. that motion passes 5 to zero. and places you under your content clarld. all content calendar. there will about no further items considered. item 4 case no. 420 at 17 va la street. and case no. at 369 third street. and next item at 2:30 there 2:30 hermann street for the condominium conversions. speaker i do have one card. johnson you >> this is automatically pull it. and secretary should we pull it and hear it at the beginning of calendar >> if you want to pull it go ahead. >> i live in the rich monday sdrith and i have noticed that about this residential area (inaudible) i'm very concerned about in the richmond sdrith to 12 after you have 16 massage permit. >> sir, if you want to speak on this you have to take it off the calendar. >> i can't speak today? >> if you request to have to be removed and heard - in terms of. >> it's been approved and no, it hasn't been removed. when we have it on calendar you can come up and speak and i appreciate it >> sir, we'll hear the item at the

commissioner antonini, borden, moore, that motion passes unanimously, 6-0. places you under public comment. i have no speaker cards. >> happy new year to everyone. today is my first day back at city hall. i didn't see the agenda. i'm on way to human rights commission. let me state the purpose i'm here for. because of our pass supervisor, kristina, she last month or so, she request a public hearing be on planning commission, o.e.w.d. and the oversight committee as it relate, fillmore, a 2 area. i'm here stating purpose that aisle looking forward for this public hearing come up. we have a new supervisor, you call her queen b., which is london b. from the community. i look forward to coming to this commission. you guys got three minutes too, that's good. hoping we can work out some things. this request basically going back to history of redevelopment agency and seeing what they call urban renewal the effects happening in our community. ladies and gentlemen, the story is drastic. i'm speaking as an african-american here i am now 2013, after all of these years at

. >> commissioner borden. >> yes. i was going to make that suggestion that we ask for the range for the alternative about the center we could address everything. i scowling process that you would do with the community >> commissioner anthony. >> i agree with the commissioner but this is not before us but your actions don't have teeth so to speak unless we have enforcement we have to go through years and years about discussi discussions about this. >> in that regards to the zoning thought i railroad that's involved and what ends up happening is they all have to have i rs and we're going to proceed with the funding a preferred alternative and it makes perfect sense to me to include that in the appropriation. and again, the monies that are raised but not appropriated r or go to the general fund and they can be spent at the discretion of the knickers. it sounds like a very he conservative and well-thought-out process to the situation >> i don't think revenues raced through the department even if they go through the fund a

. >> commissioner borden. >> my question is when you come back on that date talk about the mechanic equipment that i are going to use please have that. >> does the project commission have - i don't know here talking about 11 feet i suggested by keeping the light and is the mechanical equipment a problem. >> is the primary issue the noise? so one of the issues is to keep the plan as is and keep the mechanical except. and option two is to pull the restaurant back 11 feet and notes have a right leaving the possibility of no natural light maybe having a sky light. to it seems to me that the commissioners primary issue is the looikt in the back >> commissioner moore. >> no, i'm sorry i'm done. >> this reminds me of a case we had 6 years ago. there was a rear patio in the middle of residential area and i think our bilth concerns were the sound sketches and they were able to make enough changes to mull u muffle is sound. i think it's worked out fine >> commissioners on a motion to continue on february 7th. so moved the commissioners that moved and passed 6 to zero >> what was the other one? >> commi

thank you >> commissioner borden. >> you don't plan on using the backyard for the restaurant; is that correct and that's right. >> seating in the front but not in the back. so the access to the backyard you would seal that off? or would that be a backdoor for the staff. i think that is the concern of the neighbors. and if you were not using the backyard but putting some sound proof windows >> i'm not sure. >> not for that but to get out to that 5 foot spaces and periodically clean it you would have to have room. but this has come up is just capture the space and there's no way that the sound could spill over. we're happen happy to close that off and make it part of the restaurant >> i think it's very - i've walked by the castro club and wondered what was was. i also understand the restaurant is a beer and wine not a full liquor place? >> not past midnight and i was looking at that complicated chart. it's more on friday and saturday nights >> you'll have some sort of inks there's, you know, with the

. >> commissioner borden: i want to recognize harold brooks bay area chapter in san francisco.day marks the end of his tenure as a ceo. he's been elevated as senior vice president for international services for the american red cross and will be moving to washington. but he has been a tremendous champion. i don't know if people know but the american red cross bay area chapter is the most generous, better than new york city and greater than los angeles, always stepping up, whether it's hurricane sandy or any disaster around the country in addition to stepping up significantly locally. volunteers, even in sandy, we had almost 200 volunteers from the bay area that lived in new york to make things happy. we're lucky because we have a very skilled staff who know how to manage things. the operation on the ground in new york was largely managed by gregory smith out of the bay area chapter, he was there 30 days working on that. i wanted to recognize him and what he's done for the american red croz cross. they bought the building on market street, and they'll be moving in, in a couple o

one * my partner, boyfriend, arrived -- one time my partner, borden, said mickey should do a direct election. i said, why? the designer from the 1980's. he said, yes, but maybe it is could for perfume, things like that. to have an international passport. ok. but deep inside, i know that i should have loved to make one coutoure collection like that. a dream of the elegance of paris. and i remember that i propose -- it was the last new bid of coutoure that arrived. i thought to propose -- [unintelligible] why don't you take one designer like vivian westwood or others to make one season, one coutoure collection? >> you should call some up immediately and suggest the deal. >> [laughs] that is true. each one to make their own collection should not be back. a very attractive idea. >> as you do not want to talk about art, we will not say your work is art. let's be very vulgar and talk about money. [laughter] it is extraordinary what you have produced in coutoure. does that make any money? quick to be honest, what we produce in coutoure does not make money but it does include money. i must say, i am