we'll leave the details to david boren, how to implement all this. there's a second point. and this is the more radical one on which i will conclude and leave a few minutes for your comments and questions. the second is to use my notion of space, of time, of segmenting the people, as jefferson says, every generation is like an independent nation with respect to every other nation. imagine international lawyers are going to have to sort this out. every generation is like a sovereignty. well, let's take that principle and that spirit and see how you can apply it, how you can make it operational. the second idea is to take not that temporal dimension along what we might describe as a vertical axis, but to flip it to the horizontal, to think spatially. here is the solution that jefferson arrived at in his retirement. and that is, divide and subdivide. take the great national republic. break it down to states. to counties. to townships or wards as he called them. indeed, if you take this regression from top to bottom you go all the way to the householder, to jefferson himself, a

. >>> you know, i think we should begin by thanking david boren for this extraordinary day. [ applause ] as i enter the stand, he picks up opponent to david mccullough. come out to the university of oklahoma. we need you to do this or any of these wonderful minds sitting here on this stage. as david has said our focus is teaching the u.s. constitutional history in the 21st century. i love akhil's story having his 6-year-old learn the names of the presidents. we had our son do exactly the same thing. it's a great way to start. i also loved his idea of having each one of us go to wikipedia to look through the names of each of our presidents to learn one fact about each of those. i find myself thinking we are faced with a group of constitutional scholars who adore what they do -- adore the constitution, all of its inclusions, everything that was left out for most of us, at least i speak for myself. growing up in high school if somebody mentioned learning about the constitution, it was a big yawn. so we are now here in the 21st century where there is a great deal of talk of exporting democ

and it's a particular honor to be here at president boren's invitation. well had a wonderful time at the president's house. bo boyd house last night. but i also want to remind you of the, and i'm sure larry summers would want us all to understand the presidents of universities are important. but, so are presidents of the united states. and, we have heard a lot about presidents already. i will come back to that unjust a minute. but i just can't resist beginning with a story about our eldest son, he just turned 13 this week. so i am feeling very nostalgic about recalling, you know he turns a man. recalling vic at age 6. i am going to say something here that is a challenge to you all, a point about civics education and constitutional education for which this university is, is, so justly renowned. at the age of 6, vic learned his presidents. and he asked me a question one day. just out of the blue. he said, dad, when did the british become our friends? i said that is a really interesting question, vic. why do you ask? he said, dad, george washington fought ag

topic again for academics and we're past some of the academic culture years or we will have david boren and everybody rets him so it's easy. maybe a little bit of both. >> i do want to the invite those of you who want to pose your own question to move to the microphone here on my left right up front at any point. if i see someone there it, i'll call on you. the phones are open. you know, this morning, peter onuf spoke of needing a renewal every 19 years or so, every generation. the constitution that the idea was that our so-called founding fathers spoke out then, but what about now? have we reached a point in our history, akhil amar where you believe we need to gather ideas for taking a look at the mistakes and some of the wrong doing that the constitution, wh believe we need to gather ideas for taking a look at the mistakes and some of the wrong doing that the constitution -- oh, i'm so sorry. is he all right? are you all right? okay. oh, coming to the microphone. all right. please be careful of those stairs. whew. have we reached that point, akhil? >> two or three -- i like to get peo

they won the american revolution, but that notion of 70% president boren mentioned, well, john adams thought that perhaps as many as 67% of the american people weren't fully on board with the american revolution. we historians think he's xnlg rating a little bit but you get the point. there were many loyalists. happily, most of them left. no, i'm joking. most of them were accepted and incorporated in american society. there were many people who thomas paine would have called fair weather friends. which army is where? the great problem was, how could this republic of republics, this loose federation, survive? nobody was more conscious of the problems of union and the problems of the future of the united states than thomas jefferson, precisely because he was not in the united states but aware of its weakness, of its imtensi impotence, of the absolute compelling need to do something. but did they do the right thing in philadelphia? that is the short version of the question americans have been asking themselves ever since. i want to tell you, as a student of the early republic, that ther

and to get a better sense of this, i want to start by suggesting that the anxieties that president boren articulated about today's sense of polarization of driftlessness, of the imminent collapse of the republic as the world gets warmer and warmer, i know that's a controversial position in oklahoma, and he didn't say anything about this. i think the best way to get into the founding is to understand that these were anxious people too, in anxious times. if you think things are bad now, put yourself into their world. imagine what it would have been like in a weak union of republican states on the brink of falling apart, when the very idea that the people were capable of governing themselves was extremely controversial. in fact, the idea of democracy itself had pejorative, negative connotations. what is democracy? democracy is the rule of the mob, of the people. and the people are a beast. what would they do if they got power? well, they'd redistribute property. have you heard that before? the first charges of socialism in american history go back to the founding when anxious elites, rich p

like nancy pelosi can't get elected in the second district or local but a blue dog democrat like dan boren who promises to act like a republican he can and the democratic party has always prided itself on inclusion and letting people of all sorts of political stripes into it that's not necessarily a bad thing in fact i think it's kind of a good thing and that is why there tends to be a lot of infighting among democrats and when it comes to the blue dogs specifically the benefits of having more democrats in congress are typically greater than the trouble with these guy knows cause and president obama won in two thousand and eight democrats won a lot of red states that they normally don't in the ranks of the blue dogs. but tragically rather than working with a president who came into office on a fairly strong mandate for change the blue dogs generally worked against him right off the bat they worked to whittle down the stimulus package eleven blue dogs even voted against a much smaller stimulus package then they actively spoke out against obamacare creating a rift in the democratic party and

boren: it will help avoid a cybercatastrophe that can threaten our national security and endanger our economic prosperity. with that, i urge my fellow members to join me in supporting this bill. i want to say specifically to our ranking member and chairman, thank you for putting the country's interest ahead of partisan gain while working together in this committee, both democrats and republicans, to do what's in the best interest of our intelligence community and the united states of america. i yield back. mr. ruppersberger: may i ask how much time we have remaining? the chair: the gentleman from maryland has eight minutes remain, the gentleman from michigan has 10 and a half minutes remaining. the gentleman from michigan. mr. rogers: i yield one minute and 30 seconds to the gentleman from texas. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for one minute and -- 50 seconds? mr. rogers spst 30. mr. barton: the rifingt a person to be secure against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated and no warrant shall -- -- the right of a person to be secure against unreasonable search

i would also like to acknowledge and thank representative hultgren and representative boren whose legislation, h.r. 3527, which will not be considered today, as a result of their leadership and mr. peterson's support, many of the critical issues for end users addressed in h.r. 3527 were reintoifed the cftc in its final definitions rule. i think we can reasonably feel assured that agricultural cooperatives and other end users out in the country side won't be unnecessarily deemed swap dealers and regulated like the largest financial institutions. as i said from the outset, the cftc on its own resolves concerns, we have -- concerns we have raised for months in our committee room we would not proceed with legislation and that's what we're -- what we've done with h.r. 3527. however, concerns of the implementation of title seven remain and so we are here today to proceed with h.r. 3336. this bill addresses issues that are important to community and farm credit banks. organizations which are instrumental to the economic vitality of our towns and rural communities. in the dodd-frank act, congress was

barrow, bishop of new york, boren from oklahoma, donnelly, higgins, hochul, kissell, lipinski, mcintyre, owens, peterson and walz. those are the democrats that voted today with republicans to keep the student loan interest rates the same. so, mr. speaker, it's my great hope that while the president's running around the country condemning republicans for not caring about the plight of students who have to pay student loans, and about the fact that he says republicans are going to double the student interest rates, i hope that somebody who's not out campaigning, like the president, down the street that way on pennsylvania avenue will get something into the president's teleprompter that advises him, hey, you may want to back off of that. the republicans with only 13 democrats voting with them actually voted to extend the same interest rates. now, i feel like the democrats would agree with the fact that we believe that in order to keep from having expenses continue to go out of sight as they did during the two years that congress was completely controlled by democrats and they had the white