boris johnson juncal junket tell us more about how this phone call went. yeah we get read outs both from the eu side and the u. k. side they're pretty much in agreement there's no dispute about what the phone call said. johnson reiterated his absolute opposition to having any type of backdrop -- backs up arrangement in the withdrawal deal -- and younger saying well the backs up needs to be there what was really significant about what johnson said and what has a lot of people in continental europe. quite worried now is that he ruled out any type of backckstop there was some thinking here that may be johnson might go back to the e. u.'s original suggestion which was that just a northern ireland. would have a backstop and would be separate from the rest of the uk for customs that of course wasn't acceptable to to resume is the northern ireland. partners and so she had to extend that to the rest of the ukuk people forget that the current backs up arrangement was a u. k. idea. but johnson very clearly both in that speech to the parliament hands in his phone con