glebov, dmitry smolsky, boris raisky, yuri semenyak, lev moller, were heard on television, on the radios upon request, they were published, and what’s more, they published on large records on small records, minions, vinyls, by the melodiya company, so somehow raisky invited me to this meeting with evgeniy grishman. i came there after a rehearsal for the paradise orchestra. raisky somehow introduced us to each other and left , i saw such a short man come up to me, wearing glasses, apparently, he couldn’t see very well, with such a slightly swaying gait, zhenya was short, plump, i realized from his suit that he is a bachelor, he played me some melody, the melody was between us, they say so-so, well they recorded the song, well, they forgot, but then at the next meeting grishman... showed me a new melody, played it for me, but i immediately felt that it was some kind of french, three-quarters made chanson with some very long, with such very beautiful melodic moves, and our song was born, for some reason i dreamed of a morning, joyful, still sleeping minsk, and we wrote this song with him,