we heard all the arguments about bosnia, as you know, mr. secretary, and now we hear them about syria again today. we overcame them in bosnia, thank god and we must overcome them in syria. i want to read how president clinton described boss knee why in 19 # 5. >> no where is a need than bosnia. for four years a terrible war has torn it apart. president clinton went on to say and i quote, "there are times and places where our leadership can mean the difference between peace and war and where we can defend our fundamental values as a people and serve our most basic strategic interests. there are still times when america and america alone can and should make the difference for peace." those were the words of a democratic president who led america to do the right thing, in helping stop atrosities in the balkans. i remember working with my republican friend and leader bob dole to support the president in that endeavour. the question for another democratic president today and all of us in positions of leadership and responsibility, is whether we w

team have devised a method for identifying and decontaminating zones his first battlefield was in bosnia where the americans were already using depleted uranium weapons this is a map of a place in bosnia which was a site ready your weapons were used in ninety ninety four ninety ninety five but they were quite high levels of contamination of the site so we've been doing quite a lot of work around not just to try and not whether he has been used in bosnia the organization identified twelve highly contaminated zones this information unable to bosnian environment ministry to take steps to limit the damage so this is one called part of that which was decontaminated in two thousand and seven as you can see from here it's a pretty extensive task that they have real problems in trying to identify the actual sites where the year is that say around it's being dug up and it starts to break down in the soil yep seven yellow you can see on the outside is uranium oxide . with three hundred grams in it should have had a traces collaborating closely with the local authorities douglas was able to work fr

. >> snow has been piled high for weeks in bosnia. numerous villages are completely cut off from the outside world. we are going to try to get as far as we can. this is the last tavern before the road ascends to the villages. they have not had any guests for week. it has prevented supplies and customers from getting to them. >> the snow is being cleared by a bunch of private companies. i don't think they are working together. >> this region is right at the border. each side is muddling through on their own. they are not coordinating the snow clearing operations. those affected are fending for themselves. >> about 10 villages here, almost nothing has been done for us for about a month now. >> he offers to take us further in his off road vehicle. >> getting this far is easy. but getting up there is tough. >> it is said to be the farthest mountain village accessible by road today. snow starts to fall again. even the off road vehicle has trouble making headway. >> this is actually a perfectly normal road. helicopters are supposed to be fl

so in bosnia, it was never -- bosnia was never a threat to america's national security. in libya, we led from behind, unfortunately, because if we had used the full weight of american air power, there would have been thousands of casualties less because the conflict would have been over more rapidly. this is the new strategy apparently is called leading from behind. in syria, it's even more impactful because the head of our central command, general mattis testified before the committee that if syria was -- if assad was overthrown and syria went in another direction, it would be the greatest blow to iran in the last 25 years. so there is a national security implication to have of this, as well. as obviously, you know, iran is causing a near international crisis because of their continued efforts to build a nuclear weapon exacerbated relations between the united states and israel, et cetera. so there are some differences, but you know, our fundamental facts remain, 7,500 conservative estimate of syrians have been massacred. they -- the iranians are there on the ground as w

engaged in iraq and afghanistan it's hard for us to be distracted by another conflict so you know bosnia work for a simple reason that the warring parties came to the table and he said we want u.s. forces there we want a peace agreement we enforce the peace or there's a huge terrorism in peacekeeper they will make or we don't have a peacekeeping mission going on in any place in the world right now one year observation in some way bespeaks how contemptuous the presidents have become about the constitution you refer to the president deciding to run your duty towards really under a constitution only congress can authorize the war it shows you how much our republic has fallen into disrepute but secondly if it is really bosnia an example of success we have now over seventeen years that would have been teen years absolutely hopeless absolutely me as a seven years with lowell's a war with nor was ended absolute evan teen years after our and they're still troops there suppose we did nothing we didn't use in any of our military resources whatsoever why would do serbia be any different or bosnia t

we heard all the arguments about bosnia, as you know, mr. secretary, and now we hear them about syria again today. we overcame them in bosnia, thank god and we must overcome them in syria. i want to read how president clinton described boss knee why in 19 # 5. >> no where is a need than bosnia. for four years a terrible war has torn it apart. president clinton went on to say and i quote, "there are times and places where our leadership can mean the difference between peace and war and where we can defend our fundamental values as a people and serve our most basic strategic interests. there are still times when america and america alone can and should make the difference for peace." those were the words of a democratic president who led america to do the right thing, in helping stop atrosities in the balkans. i remember working with my republican friend and leader bob dole to support the president in that endeavour. the question for another democratic president today and all of us in positions of leadership and responsibility, is whether we w

be any different or bosnia then the bet and uprisings are. in china or that we go ours there are chechnya with regard to russia or any other plates. this insane idea that the united states has to go every place in the world with the military if we think that one group is oppressing another is the universal international policeman mentality that will get us into everywhere and it would be ideal that is really how it would be a lie how the grass is out of ours it was it wasn't was successful whether or not you agree that i don't agree with either what i was eighteen years old but it works and that's the part again i have to wrap it up but i also have to just ask one quick question about this executive order because i know that some of our viewers are curious about it there's a lot of talk on the internet people think it means peace time martial law but cleared of forests real quick what it is how it's been signed i don't know it's the stupidest problem ever heard of the president put the moderates in the hearts of our reporter security so we do

the war it shows you how much our republic has fallen into disrepute but secondly if it is really bosnia an example of success we have now we are seventeen years so we have been thousand years absolutely hopeless absolutely you are as me as a seventeen years we are in lowell the war was ended the war was ended absolute evan thousand years after our invasion there are still troops there suppose we did nothing we didn't use and any of our military resources whatsoever why would do serbia or that be any different or bosnia then the tibetan uprisings or. in china or the wee hours there or chechnya with regard to russia or any other plates. this insane idea that the united states has to go every place in the world with the military if we think that one group is oppressing another is the universal international policeman mentality that will get us into everywhere and i want to be about everywhere i go i realize how the grass is about of course is an advertising guy is a positive was successful whether or not you agree with me that what i was eighteen years old but it works that's the bottom of

and the work you're doing to bring bosnia into nato as well as the other countries in line, is there any madam secretary, or instances where the obama administration has withheld or threatened to withhold or plans to wi and voto national lending institutions to reward with debt relief or loans or to deny such or in any way provide a retaliatory means based on that nation's policies on abortion and based on that nation's support or opposition to resolutions at the u.n. regarding abortion. >> as to that second question, congressman, i'd like to take it for the record because it had so many parts to it. i don't want to give you an .nswer that's not as accurate as i will certainly get back to you on that. as to the very troubling case of the pastor, you are 100% right. his case is particularly egregious, but it is unfortunately part of what we see as increasing persecution on the basis of religion. in some parts of the world it's sex of islam, in some parts of world is christians. wherever it occurs, it is deplorable against freedom of religion, against human rights that are universally

by the way same argument back in bosnia and kosovo. we don't cho who they are. they might being al qaeda. what these people are doing is a direct repudiation of al qaeda. al qaeda believes in acts of terror to change things. these people at least in the beginning peacefully demonstrated. i am confident, i am confident that the people of syria that are fighting and dying and being massacred as we speak are not al qaeda. they are people who want the same things that want we fought for a long, long time ago and that we have steadfastly attempted to support over the intervening couple hundred years. >> okay. >> and shame on us, shame on us when these people are being massacred and maimed like they are. i'm not saying america do it alone. i'm not saying boots on the ground. i'm saying we can work with other nations. and by the way i believe some of these other nations will take action and we may go along with it over time because americans don't like to see this kind of thing happen without us trying to assist. >> senator john mccain we'll leave it there. thank you v

military, to stop the slaughter in syria are actually greater than they were in the case of either bosnia or kosovo, there's as great as those were, there's the humantarian crisis, he is slaughtering his people and for all we noelle keep doing and not -- for all we know, he will keep doing it. we agree on this, how positive it would be if assad, who is the only ally of iran, is taken down, and how liberating to those that live under syrian pressure, and perhaps this is unique and different and we are not giving it enough weight. in our foreign policy, we have done a lot of things over the years inclu sins which youing i years, including in recent years of trying to regain the confidence of the muslim world much we have here a moment where the arab league, the gulf coordinating council, turkey are out this, i know turkey is not the arab world, are out there against what is happening in syria. and i think if we seem to be holding back, and incident iall the countries are seeing their strategic interest in this and because their people are demanding it because of the wave of change sweeping

if nato came together as they did in bosnia, we would rely on that. we have options here. if we want to build the kind of international approach to dealing with the situation. >> i'm all for having an international support, but i -- i'm really baffled by the idea that somehow an international assembly provides a legal basis for the united states military to be deployed in combat. i don't believe it's close to being correct. they provide no legal authority. the only legal authority that's required to deploy the united states military is the congress and the president and the law and the constitution. >> let me just for the record be clear again, senator, so there's no misunderstanding. when it comes to the national defense of the country, the president of the united states has the authority under the constitution to act to defend this country. and we will. if it comes to an operation where we're trying to build a coalition of nations to work together to go in and operate as we did in libya or bosnia, for that matter afghanistan, we want to do it with permissions either by n

for nearly four years a war has torn bosnia apart.here are times and places where our leadership can mean the difference between peace and war, where we can defend our fundamental values as a people, serve our most basic strategic interest. there are still times when america can and should make a difference for peace." those were the words of a democratic president who led america to do the right thing. i remember working with my republican friends bob dole to support president clinton in that endeavor. the question for another democratic president today is whether we will allow similar mass atrocities to continue in syria and whether we will do what it takes to stop them. i thank you. >> thank you. secretary panetta. >> thank you for the opportunity to be able to discuss the ongoing violence in syria. this tragedy has justifiably of folk the concern and outrage of the united states -- justifiably evoked the concern and outrage of the united states. the president and the international community have stated that bashar al-assad must ha

and fundamentally we went to the balkans because ethnic cleansing and genocide was taking place in bosnia and kosovo in the 1990s. do you see a difference between the kind of slaughter going on in syria now and the kind that was going on in kosovo and in bosnia, maybe a difference in scale but the same kind of actions and being taken by the government? >> certainly each situation is unique, but as far as the trend, i would not disagree with your characterization. >> under current conditions, would simply providing arms to the opposition be sufficient to help them end the violence and to form assad to leave power? >> sir, providing arms is perhaps an option that would be a policy option. i think we'd have to do our best to determine who we're providing the arms to and follow the physician's oath of first do no harm to make certain what we're doing will reduce the scale of violence ultimately. i mean, it may go up for a short time, but i think you'd have to look at it very closely because the longer this goes on, the more potential there is for al qaeda and for basically a full-scale civil

for nearly four years a war has torn bosnia apart. there are times and places where our leadership can mean the difference between peace and war, where we can defend our fundamental values as a people, serve our most basic strategic interest. there are still times when america can and should make a difference for peace." those were the words of a democratic president who led america to do the right thing. i remember working with my republican friends bob dole to support president clinton in that endeavor. the question for another democratic president today is whether we will allow similar mass atrocities to continue in syria and whether we will do what it takes to stop them. i thank you. >> thank you. secretary panetta. >> thank you for the opportunity to be able to discuss the ongoing violence in syria. this tragedy has justifiably of folk the concern and outrage of the united states -- justifiably evoked the concern and outrage of the united states. the president and the international community have stated that bashar al-assad must

we went co- -- to bosnia, went to kosovo. we regret enormously, we didn't do something to stop the genocide in rwanda. if we look back, if we fail to intervene, years from now, and thousands and thousands of syrians have been massacred while we stood by because we, quote, can't address the issue, we can. we're the best military in the world. i understand the strain on american military. i understand the sacrifices made by american families. but i also understand the proudest part of american history is when we have tried to help other people achieve the same goals that we so passionately articulated when we declared our independence. >> two quick political questions. i would be remiss if i didn't ask you about last night's super tuesday results. your candidate, governor romney had a good night, winning the super prize, ohio. do you believe the time has come for the other candidates to get out of the race? >> i would hope so, but i can't tell the other candidates what they should do. they have to make their own decisions. i am

the fourth secondary character a guy sitting here. >> there he is. >> he was a general's aide in bosnia? and his day during the invasion nab iraq and back in afghanistan commanding said combat battalion. petraeus has a special zero relationship with the 101st he commanded them in 2003 the first combat command. during his last command it just so happens the entire 101st was deployed together for the first time since 2003 and david was one of the three combat leaders battalion leaders that we write about. and doug was the senior civilian adviser to the commander. and also has a special relationship two petraeus as a planner of the surge in iraq 2007 some zero and then from the dominick factor -- character that they were buried interesting tough battles and writing about them from my vantage point* and it was inspiring to me to see the dedication and from the people that they lost. >> not have they read the book get to do you cover the political attack as exemplified by fed general the trade us and can use the get your cadet experience at west point? [laughter] >> agreed do touch that adve

. >> you have a lot of ethnic cleanings and the murder in rwanda and bosnia and it means there's a virus we cannot really know and understand and the only way to try to really fight it is to talk about it. it's to try to wake up the emotional imagination and that's what movie can do. movie cannot do too much but can give you the experience and the experience wakes up the inner part and that's the most important thing. >> rose: we conclude the evening with sean brock all about southern cooking and his places in south carolina. >> knowledge and wisdom is everything. we must always research and understand our past or else our future is cloudy. so for me i've spent a lot of time looking at the 19th century when food was honest and wonderful. our plants weren't genetically engineered and our soil wasn't poisoned and the food tasted incredible and everyone cooked and everyone grew food and i think we'll get back to that some day soon. >> rose: a playwright, director and chef. funding was provided by the following: captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, t

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we all know the results in bosnia. it is critical that the pressure is kept on the regime and they are not allowed to destroy evidence and to continue this for roche's attack on the syrian people. --did this for roche's continue this attack. >> you know what the conditions are? >> at times we have a steady supply of information. that is drying up daily. it is more difficult. i assume it is because the troops are going house to house. conditions are almost unworkable. they faced snipers. there is a fear it is almost unworkable, hence the drying up of information. >> when you hear about are the u.s. defense secretary saying the u.s. will not take unilateral action, how does that make you feel and the people back in syria? hamas maybe feeling -- how must they be feeling? >> on a personal level it is devastating, but i also realize it is in fact too late. this is something that should have been discussed eight or nine months ago. people have made their peace. they were expecting to die. i am afraid we are to laid once agai

we intervened in bosnia. we intervened in kosovo because people were being massacred. that is part of the president's stated national security policy. we need to act and we need to act with other nations who will join us in this cause. >> you talked about not going unilaterally. the secretary of defense says it's not like libya where there's a coalition of states including arab states, calling for intervection, and the chairman of joint chiefs says the syrian air defenses are much more sophisticated and more difficult to hit. >> we spend almost a trillion a year on the military. we can't take out the air defenses of syria? that's an horrific waste of the taxpayers' dollars. every time that one of these crises happens and i remember well under president clinton, we can't do it. they can always think of reasons not to do it. we led from behind in libya. we were the last ones on board. by the way, the saudi foreign minister called for arming the rebels. there are our nations that are working to help the syrians. those people who watch cnn every night are treated or have t

and nato did in bosnia and cause a vote, or allow them to arm themselves.ot to do either one is [unintelligible] >> state-controlled media has broadcast -- the authorities are allowing all parties to have brief blocks on television and radio to promote their agenda. he called for media freedom and an independent judiciary. >> what do we do to ensure will log? we have to repeal immediately some of the repressive laws that are not in accordance with the time and enact laws that protect the people. we have to ensure that the judicial system as independent. media freedom must be given. >> the speech was well-received. it was the first time he appeared on state-run television. the origin of the speech was censored in the first place. i talked to people inside the country. she covered many issues. rule of law, she called for a nationwide cease-fire. she talked about education, health care, and how parties are going to amend the constitution. she made a strong commitment to amend the constitution when she is in parliament. she covered issues that the burmese peopl

president bill clinton at the time of bosnia said there are times and places where our leadership can mean the difference between peace and war and where we can defend our fundamental values as a people and serve our most basic strategic interests. first of all, general testified that if syria went, that would be the greatest blow to iran in 25 years. but the important thing is, people are being slaughtered and massacred in an unfair fight. assad is being supplied by russians. iranians are on the ground. they're being massacred. now estimates as high as 10,000. working with other countries and no boots on the ground and no unilateral action, we could join with others and lead and bring about the end of one of the most brutal dictators on earth. >> before you go, to switch gears -- >> we covered a lot of territory. >> we covered a lot of territory. this is your 64th appearance on this program. i was joking, you've been on this show more than i have. we've got some pictures of you over the years here where you've come here and you've talked about politics and national security and you'v

if nato came together as they did in bosnia, we would rely on that. we have options here. if we want to build the kind of international approach to dealing with the situation. >> i'm all for having an international support, but i -- i'm really baffled by the idea that somehow an international assembly provides a legal basis for the united states military to be deployed in combat. i don't believe it's close to being correct. they provide no legal authority. the only legal authority that's required to deploy the united states military is the congress and the president and the law and the constitution. >> let me just for the record be clear again, senator, so there's no misunderstanding. when it comes to the national defense of the country, the president of the united states has the authority under the constitution to act to defend this country. and we will. if it comes to an operation where we're trying to build a coalition of nations to work together to go in and operate as we did in libya or bosnia, for that matter afghanistan, we want to do it with permissions either by n

that's why the second world war they have to go back because especially from bosnia and other places the united states has recruited them from coming and they train them with the idea of teaching them how to fight but then they didn't know what to do with them so they brought them to the united states. in the united states recruited people from the muslim world after 1952 because that's when the united states went into the business of communism in the muslim countries and so we have a lot of propaganda based on that and they've recruited students to come study for their masters degree or ph.d. in the united states and some of these people did not go that. then after 1965 we have the major immigration when the united states abolished the asia exclusion act and then we began to have people from asia coming like pakistanis, bangladeshis and mauritanians so we had different waves. >> professor sheryll cashin, honey muslims or how many arabs are in the u.s. at this time? nobody knows. god knows best because nobody has counted them. there are sore between 17 and 11 million. a day may be ab

this will become familiar scenes as we saw in bosnia. we all know the result of that. it is critical that the pressure is kept on the regime and they are not allowed to hide, destroy evidence, and continued this attack. >> are you able to be in touch with any of the activists who helped you? you know what the conditions are like right now? >> the situation with regards to contact has deteriorated. at times we had a steady supply of information. that information is drying up daily. i assume that is because the troops are on the ground and going house to house. conditions were almost unworkable. we face snipers' every day. -- faced snipers every day. it is almost unworkable. >> when you hear about the u.s. defense secretary saying u.s. forces will not take action against president assad, how does that make you feel? >> to be personal, on a personal level, it is devastating. i also, and most people, realize it is too late. this should have been discussed eight months ago. people have said their goodbyes. they have made their peace. they are expecting to die. the world has

hundred eighty nine the us who wound up with military bases in kosovo mania garia macedonia hungary bosnia and croatia following its bombing of afghanistan in two thousand and one into the us round out with military bases in afghanistan pakistan kazakhstan uzbekistan tajikistan kurdistan georgia yemen and djibouti following its bombing at a division of iraq in two thousand and three the united states wound up with iraq. staying behind. i believe is actually at the is the ultimate purpose of many of these wars we used to think of military bases being built in order to wage the worse and i think increasingly we see the wars themselves as convenient opportunities to station the bases and to have a more. and the presence in countries such as iraq such as afghanistan such as kosovo. so that's. what we have in here is video games. and. some of the things that go. with it. is to want to this has been at first but soon to be done trolls daily. you can see you can buy me one being either for quite a long time and make it that age as it will give way for college is something i want to do for a long

he was the senior enlisted, serve in bosnia as well. he was not a naive young kid. there was a sobriety to his remarks and what i came away feeling he wanted to explore with me was -- this is what i mean by moral clarity. there was a sense of betrayal he was experiencing that he had been betrayed by his command or by the president of the united states or the people who send him. and he had to bear the burden alone. bearing the burden of coming home and he was a person who had body parts scattered in trees and in fields that he played over and came home with a tape that was repeated in his mind of smells and sounds of charred sizzling bodies and flesh. he came home with that and had to reintegrate. it was resentment of a sort but it was very simmering. not a anchor that was raging but simmering below the surface and it comes up when he has to deal with the va. navigating the bureaucracy-you don't come, the unit. your isolated. you are not coming home to fort bragg or large bases. you are coming homan your own so you have to work to make your community. he was not a y

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the second world war, you have muslims from east europe, because especially from bosnia. the far places where the united states had recruited them from labor camps, actually from displaced people's camps, and a trained them with the idea of sending them to russia to fight, but then they didn't know what to do with them, so that brought them to the united states. then the united states recruited people from the muslim world after 1952 because that's when they yeah states went into the business of trying to block the spread of communism in muslim countries. and so we have a lot of propaganda based on that, and they recruited students to come and study for their master's degree or ph.d. degree in the united states. some of these people did not go back. and then after 1965 we have the major immigration from the united states and bullous year. the decision act. and then we began to have people from asia coming in. with so we had different ways. >> professor yvonne haddad, how many muslims or arabs are in the u.s. at this time? >> there is a contest will. nobody knows. nobody i