but i need to spend a long time and i think that we are talking articlier about the war on bosnia, bosniaas the watershed moment that changed reporting in our -- in our generation, i think, it was basically our generation vietnam and it was the time when a small group of us were very, very committed to affecting policy and we felt that we were not going to let this genocide happen on our watch and we stuck it out, we lived surge siege with the people, we were sniped, we were stafferred, we didn't have food, we didn't have water. yet we did something that we were proud of, inch that was in the war and covered the war feels like it changed their lives forever and style of reporting. we feel committed. that's why i want to drive syria home right now. it's a slow-motion genocide. the world must pay attention to it. now i live in paris and coming to america for the past two weeks on this book tour, i'm really amazed by how little attention is getting, that, you know, it's -- there are people being slaughtered, the hospital where i work, the only pediatrician was killed. the first responders, t

reporter the ferhadija or ferhat : pasha mosque is well known throughout bosnia. its official re-opening by clerical and political dignitaries was broadcast live on national television. ♪ the ceremony went peacefully. gunic is relieved. >> i think, now we've given a signal, and more bosniaks will have the confidence to return to bosnia. now they can assume their traditional place in this society and live together with the others in peace. reporter gunic intends to do : even more to encourage the bosniaks to return to banja luka. with the re-opening of the ferhadija mosque, they have a common home to come back to. michelle turkey's president : erdogan has a dream of greatness for his country. the landscape of turkey has transformed profoundly in the years he has been in power. from roads, shopping malls and power plants to plans for creating the world's largest airport, the new istanbul mega hub. but local farmers had to give up art of their land without compensation. many of them have given up, but mustafa bozkurt is still fighting for his rights. reporter thirty

[applause] >> or her phony landing in bosnia where she said she was

not that long ago small, nongovernmental organizations from jamaica and nigeria, , sierraa, and bosnia leone, ukraine to my and 20 other countries would never have connected to make a difference in their quest for stronger democracy.

like that's the lie he's going to go for is the lie about bosnia? but that's the kind of thing that resonates with people. that's why trump is doing a lot better than everyone says and hillary is in trouble. kennedy: on the electoral map she has an advantage and a lead in two of the three big swing states. but this speech could reexpound with independents. did he make inroads? >> he did because it was ordered and more reasoned. he still communicated in the way he has using catch word. i love the way he uses the word rich. he talked about that when he declared his candidacy last year. that's not a dirty word to people. you need a bigger room so it doesn't sounds like he's standing in somebody's kitchen giving the speech. but it does work and it will connect with people and hillary clinton's unfavorables are still high. kennedy: i thought it was smart of him to give specific numbers to saudi atraib yeah saying they donated $25 million to the clinton foundation. the problem i had with the speech wasn't when he was talking about her. it was when he was

here's bosnia today. we must apply these lessons of the war in bosnia to the current conflict in syria. the united states must take decisive leadership in returning long-term stability to syria and unless america and our allies are willing to use, russian and syrian leaders will not respect us or have reason to negotiate peace. to enable the citizens of syria to live free from fear must establish safe zones along the border with turky ramp up our efforts to train syrian opposition leaders who have proven they are not extremists and help syria institute a new coalition government. peace in syria is impossible when assad is in control. he has proven this time and again by use of chemical weapons on his own people. america cannot address the humanitarian crisis and restore long-term stability to syria on our own. we must engage with our partners around the world who share mutual interests in the cause of freedom. but no matter what, president barack obama must act now or more lives could be lost now. i encou

reporter the ferhadija or ferhat : pasha mosque is well known throughout bosnia.ial re-opening by clerical and political dignitaries was broadcast live on national television. ♪ the ceremony went peacefully. gunic is relieved. >> i think, now we've given a signal, and more bosniaks will have the confidence to return to bosnia. now they can assume their traditional place in this society and live together with the others in peace. reporter gunic intends to do : even more to encourage the bosniaks to return to banja luka. with the re-opening of the ferhadija mosque, they have a common home to come back to. michelle turkey's president : erdogan has a dream of greatness for his country. the landscape of turkey has transformed profoundly in the years he has been in power. from roads, shopping malls and power plants to plans for creating the world's largest airport, the new istanbul mega hub. but local farmers had to give up art of their land without compensation. many of them have given up, but mustafa bozkurt is still fighting for his rights. reporter thirty cows and a

clin and a new line of attack on bosnia. >> her phony landing in bosnia, where she said she was under attack and the attack turned out to be young girls handing her flowers, a total and self-serving lie. >> reporter: our fact check? true. clinton later apologizing for the description. >> so, i made a mistake. that happens. it proves i'm human. >> reporter: trump noticeably held some of his fire when it came to bill clinton. trump telling david muir last he would prefer it be about hillary's record, not about personal attacks. >> what will be off-limits for you? >> i would much rather, david, have it be policy and issues, if we can do that, i'd be very happy and i think we do very well on that basis. >> though they have been at odds recently, there is something that the republican establishment and donald trump agree on, it's foreign policy and that is one of hillary clinton's biggest weaknesses. tom llamas, abc news, new york. >>> as you can imagine, hillary clinton wasted no time firing back calling outlandish lies. she told supporters in north carolina her speempb obtuse must have g

and a new line of attack on bosnia. >> her phony landing in bosnia, where she said she was under attack and the attack turned out to be young girls handing her flowers, a total and self-serving lie. >> reporter: our fact check? true. clinton later apologizing for that happens. proves i'm human. >> reporter: trump held some of his fire when it came to bill clinton. trump telling david muir last night, he would prefer it be about hillary's record, not about personal attacks. >> what will be off-limits for you? >> i would much rather, david, have it be policy and issues, if we can do that, i'd be very happy and i think we do very well on that basis. >> as we just heard right there, trump told us he would prefer poll sill over personal attacks. we didn't hear him going after bill clinton in the same way he has. is this the policy speech some in the republican establishment had wanted from trump? >> reporter: david, no talk of some of bill clinton's infamous scandals. he mainly stuck to the prepared speech, but if there's one thing that trump and the republican establishment agree on is that

clinton did falsely claim that she came under sniper fire in boz b bosnia. and make tens of millions giving corporate speeches. south carolina's jim clyburn. >> do the speeches give appearance of a con flkt of interest? >> hillary rodham clinton in spite of what he may say has revealed her tax returns for at last 11 years. everything is there for to us see. >> but no transcripts -- >> you can always find something. >> repor i bernie sanders to give him a nfc, afc, offensive lineman, defensive tackles, quarterbacks and cornerbacks are all living united. to ensure the academic success of millions of kids in our communities. all the way to graduation day. but that won't happen without you. so take the pledge at unitedway.org. make a difference in the life of a child. suit up like your favorite nfl players, and become a volunteer reader, tutor or mentor with united way. >>> well tomorrow's vote on the future of great britain is too close to call. after 43 years, the u.k. will decide whether to break from the 2 nation european union. the eu is sort of a united st

. >> but the united states intervened in bosnia to protect muslims. it intervened in afghanistan d when they elected twice a person that doesn't support the people. in the real world, it is determined by polls and not by what you say, and the polls overwhelmingly show it as do two elections. >> you're living in hollywood, some kind of make-believe world. >> i come back to the very simple proposition that if the groups you seem to support, from al qaeda to isis, were as popular as you claim, why don't they hold elections? why do they have to go around murdering, slaughtering, raping and forcing people into submission? >> for a moment i thought you were talking about guantanamo bay which you were talking about rape and oppression, but obviously you're not talking about that. >> choudary reminds me of marxist idealists i met in my youth who could explain away anything to justify their belief system. the anger at america is deep. what is striking is that america remains the obsession of choudary and of so many who have seldom, if ever, been here. so what

her phony landing in bosnia where she said she was under attack and the attack turned out to be young girls handing her flowers. nicole: trump's proposals will hurt the economy according to hillary clinton. >> donald trump offers no real solution for economic challenges we face. just continues to spout reckless ideas that will run up our debts and cause another economic crash. nicole: clinton ads trump is going after her personally because he has no answers on the substance. nicole: donald trump kicked back his support of donald rumsfeld, rumsfeld told greta van susteren it was an easy choice for him. >> i am a republican. i don't expect i should agree with everybody on everything with two great political plays. i could not vote for mrs. clinton. >> are you endorsing trump or supporting him? >> i don't know there is any difference. >> this endorsement. >> no one asked me for my endorsement. clearly i'm going to vote for him. lauren: rumsfeld said he never met donald trump but says he is preferable to hillary clinton. according to the conservative watchdog judicial watch, invokes the f

and a new line of attack on bosnia. >> her phony landing in bosnia where she said she was underattacknd the attack turned out to be young girls handing her flowers, a total and svl serving lie. >> our fact check, true. clinton later apologizing for the description. >> so i made a mistake. it problems i'm human up. >> trump held fire when it came to bill clinton. telling david muir last night, he would prefer it be about hillary's record, not about personal attacks. >> what will be off limits for you? >> i would much rather, david have, it be policy and issues if we can do that, i'd be very happy. i think we do very well on that basis. >> reporter: donald trump mostly stuck to the prepared speech and there was no talk of some of bill clinton's most infamous scandals. he wanted us to focus on the issues and policy. if there's one thing donald trump and the establishment agree on it's foreign policy is one of clinton's biggest weaknesses. >> hillary clinton for her part wasted no time firing back at trump on the economy. she promised her plans will cause people to hear your fired instead

>> when we were flying into bosnia, there was no greeting ceremony, and we basically were told to runo our cars. that is what happened. john: only after the cbs news video showed what really happened, that there was a greeting ceremony. here she's doing a photo-op with an 8-year-old girl. did hillary stop talking about sniper fire. so when she says something, i don't know if it's true, same for donald when it comes to issues since they change positions so much. hard to tell what they really believe. on some issues, we think we know. and that's why grover norquist of americans for tax reform says there are reasons to choose donald over hillary, like what? >> taxes are one of the ones -- john: and what they specialize in. >> we asked not to raise taxes. hillary clinton in the campaign said she wants to raise a trillion dollars in taxes. that she's been clear about. she wants to take away many of your personal deductions, 350 billion dollars. many business deductions and credits raising business taxes, 275 billion, and 4 to 500 billion in taxing rich people. whatever she defines as rich.

. >> but the united states intervened in bosnia to protect muslims.t has intervened in afghanistan and is supporting a government that has been elected twice by the afghan people. >> i think you spend too much time in the cnn world, in the real world, the people in afghanistan hate americans. >> the real world is determined by polls not what you say. >> you're living in hollywood. some kind of make believe world. >> i come back to the very simple proposition that if the groups you seem to support, from al qaeda to isis were as popular as they claim, why do they have to go around murdering, slotering, raping and forcing people into submission? >> for a moment i thought you were talking about guantanamo bae when you were talking about rape, and oppression. >> choudery reminds me of marxist ideologs that could justify their belief system. what is striking is that american remains the obsession of choudery and others who have seldom been here. so, what happens when a jihadi is one of us? an american? are the reasons he hates us the same? >> to the muslims

. >> but the united states went into bosnia to protect muslims. it intervened in afghanistan and is supporting a government that was elected twice by the afghan people. >> i think you spend too much time in the cnn world. in the real world, the people of afghanistan hate the americans. >> in the real world, mr. chowdri, it's determined by polls, not by what you say. the polls overwhelmingly show it as do two elections. >> you're living in hollywood, some kind of make believe world. >> i come back to the same proposition, that if the groups you seem to support, from al qaeda to isis, were as popular as they claim, why do they hold elections? why do they have to go around murdering, slaughtering and raping and holding people in submission? >> for a minute i thought you were talking about guantanamo bay when you talked about rape and torture, but you're not talking about that. >> chowdri reminds me of marxist idealists i met in the north. the anger in america runs deep. what's striking is america remains the obsession of chowdri and so many who have

her pathetic e-mail server statements or her phony language. [ applause ] or her phone landing in bosnia where she said she was under attack and the attack turned out to be young girls handing her flowers. a total and -- look, this was -- this was one of the beauts. a total and self-serving lie. brian williams' career was destroyed for saying less. just remember that. yesterday, she even tried to attack me and my many businesses. but here, and this is the way it is, is the bottom line. i started off in brooklyn, new york, not so along ago, with a small loan, and built a business that today is worth well over $10 billion. [ applause ] that's the kind of thinking we need in our leadership of our country. i've always had a talent for building businesses. and importantly, for creating jobs. that's a talent our country desperately needs. i'm running for president to end the unfairness and to put you, the american worker, first. it's about time. [ applause ] we're going to put america first. and we're going to make america great again. this election will decide whether we are ruled by the peop

>> when we were flying into bosnia, there was no greeting ceremony, and we basically were told to runo our cars. that is what happened. john: only after the cbs news video showed what really happened, that there was a greeting ceremony. here she's doing a photo-op with an 8-year-old girl. did hillary stop talking about sniper fire. so when she says something, i don't know if it's true, same for donald when it comes to issues since they change positions so much. hard to tell what they really believe. on some issues, we think we know. and that's why grover norquist of americans for tax reform says there are reasons to choose donald over hillary, like what? >> taxes are one of the ones -- john: and what they specialize in. >> we asked not to raise taxes. hillary clinton in the campaign said she wants to raise a trillion dollars in taxes. that she's been clear about. she wants to take away many of your personal deductions, 350 billion dollars. many business deductions and credits raising business taxes, 275 billion, and 4 to 500 billion in taxing rich people. whatever she defines as rich.

clinton did falsely claim that she came under sniper fire in boz b bosnia.ake tens of millions giving corporate speeches. south carolina's jim clyburn. >> do the speeches give appearance of a con flkt of interest? >> hillary rodham clinton in spite of what he may say has revealed her tax returns for at last 11 years. everything is there for to us see. >> but no transcripts -- >> you can always find something. >> repor i

the bosnia claim, for example. others, though, not true. debunked. things like the benghazi claim. why not keep it clean? why put in things that have been debunked. >> i think the issue is that it's false. he's metaphorically saying she was sleeping. she should have been there. multiple requests for security that were not delivered. those are facts. we can say the same about hillary clinton, who has categorically called donald trump a fraud and saying that trump university was a fraud. we could painstakingly fact collect her as well. i think fact checkers sometimes are a little off especially some out there that painstakingly check donald trump. but the fact is, he is right. he laid out facts about the clinton foundation, laid out facts about benghazi. cited victims of benghazi's families who said that hillary clinton lied to them, point blank. these are facts that she has to answer. >> well -- >> i mean, i've interviewed family members, some who have personal grievances with hillary clinton and some who do not share the anger. trump did go after her very directly and it was very p

in 1993 the cia brought two of them to use as spy planes in bosnia, and they got good results. that helped inspire the defense department to develop a derivative, the predator, which flew for the first time in july 1994. one of the big improvements over the nat-750 was that the predator could be flown by satellite which is why it has that familiar bulbous nose. there's a satellite dish inside. the predator wasn't armed at first. it just carried a video camera, radar and other sensors that could be used to gather what the military calls isr, an acronym for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance. but the military found the predator very useful in the balkans wars of the 1990s because it could stay airborne as long as 40 hours at a time without landing to refuel. and all the while sending its video back to its ground control station. partly for that reason in the spring of 2000, an innovative air force general named john jumper decided to arm the predator. jumper assigned that project to a very special air force unit that goes by the exotic nickname big safari. in my book i

. >> reporter: clinton did falsely claim that she came under sniper fire in bosnia, and she did makeens of millions of dollars giving corporate speeches. south carolina's jim clyburn. do these speeches give at least the appearance of a conflict of interest? >> hillary rodham clinton, in spite of what he may say, has revealed all of her tax returns, i understand for the last 11s years. everything is there for us to see. >> reporter: but no transcripts of the speeches. >> well you can always find those. >> reporter: in his speech today, trump called on supporters of bernie sanders to give him a look, but bernie sanders in an interview, scott, said he did not expect that there would be many takers. >> pelley: nancy cordes on the clinton campaign. nancy, thanks. well, tomorrow's vote on the future of great britain is too close to call. after 43 years, the u.k. will decide whether to break from the 28-nation european union. the e.u. is sort of a united states of europe, where people and trade move freely. but conservatives want the u.k. independent again, and last week, a member of parl w

[applause] >> or her phony landing in bosnia where she said she was under attack and the attack turned out to be young girls handing her flowers. this was one of the buttes. a total and self serving lie. brian williams career was destroyed for saying less. just remember that. yesterday she even tried to attack me and my many businesses. but here, and this is the way it is, is the bottom line. i started off in brooklyn, new york with a small loan and built a business that today is worth well over 10 billion dollars. [applause] >> and that is the kind of thinking we need in our leadership of our country. i have always had a talent for building businesses and importantly for creating jobs. that is a talent our country desperately needs. i am running for president to end the unfairness and to put you, the american worker, first. it is about time. [applause] >> we are going to put america first and make america great again. this election decides when we are ruled by the people or the politicians. [applause] >> here is my promise to the american voter. if i am elected president i will end th

in the western balkans region, or, ii, acts obstructing implementation of the date and accords in bosnia or united nations security council resolution 1244 of june 10, 199 in kosovo has not been -- 1999 in kosovo, has not been resolved. executive order 13219 was amended by another executive order of may 28, 2003, to take additional steps with respect to the acts obstructing the implementation of the orid framework agreement of 2001 relating to macedonia. because the acts of extremist violence and obstructionist activity outlined in these executive orders are hostile to u.s. interests and continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the united states, i have determined that it is necessary to continue the national emergency declared with respect to the western balkans. signed, barack obama, the white ouse, june 21, 2016. the speaker pro tempore: referred to the committee on foreign affairs and ordered printed. the chair lays before the house a message. the clerk: to the congress of the united states. section 202-d of the national emer

[applause] her phony landing in bosnia where she said she was under attack and the attack turned out girls handing her flowers. vonnie: clinton is speaking in raleigh, north carolina. joining us on the set is michael , weer and in washington have our correspondent. to we expect the rhetoric change or are the devices we have been hearing from trump and even from clinton going to stay the same through the rest of the campaign? michael: i think that clip that you should've trump is what we can expect for a while. trump has been the presumptive nominee for a month and a half. this is the time when he supposed to have been getting stronger and he has been getting weaker, whether it is one in -- one self-inflicted wound after a neck. he's trying to take the spotlight off of himself and put it on clinton. david: we were talking to senator richard shelby and we asked about what parts of trump's economic plan he likes the most. it seems like we have not got a vision of what that plan is going to be. does the campaign have a plan to release that in the near term? not going to be a policy detai

this time, the immigrants are muslims, from yemen, from bangladesh, from bosnia.as little warsaw is the first city in america run by muslim americans. it has a majority muslim city council. >> last night's election had historic significance for that community and the country. >> one more story as old as america, the inevitable culture clash. >> i don't like the changes that are going on. so i'm leaving. >> church bells collide, with the call to prayer restaurants caret to separate groups, different cultures now living side-by-side. there have been rough spots, but they have gradually begun to make its new reality and government work. >> i pledge allegiance to the flag. >> we have a great possibility in the world. >> it's an assault problem. >> but then the calls started coming in from the rest of many. >> we're trying to blow up the muslimles. they try to break shariah law. people are going crazy. >> it's sometime to say, no shariah in america. >> reporter: many communities across the country fear that arab immigration could translate into shariah law. >> i didn't

her pathetic e-mail service statements or her phony landing. [ applause ] or her phony landing in bosnia she was under attack. and the attack turned out to be young girls handing her flowers, a total and, look, this was, this was one of the beauts, total, self serving lie. hillary clinton has perfected the politics of personal profit and even theft. she ran the state department like her own personal hedge fund doing favors for oppressive regimes and others and really, many, many others in exchange for cash. pure and simple, folks. pure and simple. [ applause ] when she left she made 21.6 million dollars. giving speeches to wall street banks and other special interests. and in less than two years, secret speeches that she does not want to reveal. under any circumstances. to the public. i wonder why. she and bill made $153 million giving speeches to lobbyists, ceos and foreign governments in the years since 2001. they totally own her. and that will never, ever change including if she ever became president god help us. >> republican leaders hope trump's tougher tone against clinton will dru

it was used a lot in bosnia.s being used now -- the fact that it is being is now is not surprising. the president has taken foreign policy pretty far in one direction. it has been extremely risk-averse. of the paid the price president did too much informed policy, bush in iraq. the gap between rhetoric and policy and for what he has done in places like libya. wrong in believing that i heard you say before we have to be very careful about our commitments in the middle east. we have to be very careful. doing manyof risk in of the things that could ask of the syrian policy want us to do. richard: absolutely. one of the lessons as you do not want to go in there with a large military footprint. you don't want to go in there to change the society. our think are policy shouldn't be having their reading the federalist papers. seems to point out, there has to be connected between what you try to do diplomatically and the situation on the ground. and mr. obama has paid a repeated price for this disconnect. so john kerry is

it was used a lot during bosnia. in the isg used now not a surprise because what the president has done is take american policy far in one direction. it has been extremely risk-averse and in one way, we paid a price for a president who did too much, george w. bush in iraq. i think president obama will pay the price in history for what he has done in syria. charlie: when you say that, am i wrong in believing that i have heard you say before, we have to be very careful about our commitments there in the middle east? doing manyof risk in of the things that critics of the syrian policy want us to do. >> absolutely. one of the lessons is, you don't want to go there with a large military footprint. i don't think our policy should be people in syria reading the federalist papers in the arabic translation. that is not something the united states should commit itself to. there is not to be a connect between what you try to do diplomatically and the situation on the ground and mr. obama has paid a repeated price for this i dis

if that 12 the number becomes 14 million, you get into the situation we were in bosnia. you have to act. you have to challenge the russians to help us. that ought to be the first call. let's see what they say, see how cynical they are about all those lights he lost in syria. we cannot stop talking about it. dr. farkas: i agree 100%. it has been my feeling for a while having worked in bosnia after the war and studied and written about it. and of course, you are both actively engaged in diplomacy and in your military careers at the time, so you know what it looked like in 1994-95. i think we are exactly there with syria. even if you don't know how you will resolve the conflict, you still have a responsibility to do something to alleviate the suffering. we did have a safe zones which did not work. i should not say they did not work. they did not work in every case. been incredibly informative, dynamic i think. i don't know whether it is spicy yet. you have a chance to make it more interesting. i think there are probably people out there with microphones. i will call on folk

this is hillary saying she remembers landing under sniper fire when she went to bosnia. >> i remember landing under sniper fire. there was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles, to get to our base. >> great image-making, but here's the problem. i have the real video, and this is it. this is hillary arriving not under sniper fire, but she walks up to a group of young girls, who give her flowers and give her gifts. that's not exactly sniper fire. so is that the person -- you're trying to warn america about? >> yes. >> explain. in other words, she sits in an interview with bill. you think they're the happiest couple together. the light goes off. she hates him. >> i don't know if she hates him or not, but i will tell ul the example you showed there is the perfect example. anybody that worked around them in the secret service, when they saw that, they started laughing their faces off because they knew that was a flat-out lie. now, i wasn't on that mission, but i talked to the guys that were. the

policy of the administration or the department of the day coming out of vietnam, was used during bosnia and the fact it's used now is not a surprise because what the president has done has taken american policy pretty far in one direction, it's been extremely risk averse and in one way we paid a price for a president in some ways did too much in foreign policy. george w. bush in iraq will be critical in history for what president obama has not done in syria repeatedly, the gap between rhetoric and policy and what he deans in places like libya. >> rose: when you say that, am i wrong in believing i've heard you say before, we have to be very careful about our commitments in the middle east, we have to be very careful, and i see lots of risk in doing many of the things that critics of the syrian policy want us to do. >> absolutely. and i think one of the lessons is you don't want to go in with a large military footprint, hundreds of thousands of people, you don't want to go in to change society. i don't think our policy should have people in syria riding our federalist papers in the transl

but so much -- >> were you in favor of bosnia, the intervention there? >> not having been involved in it at the time, i don't want to misspeak, but how about having a skeptic at the table with regard to these military interventions? and yes, if we are going to make a difference, then count on me to step up. but our military interventions -- we have treaties with apparently 69 countries where we're obligated to defend their borders. and these were treaties that were executive treaties, not authorized by congress. >> final question for you. the results come in on election night. you have had an impact. will you be more comfortable if your impact elects a president clinton or a president trump? >> you know, chuck, i would not be doing this if there weren't the opportunity to win. but the only opportunity that i have of winning is to be in the presidential debates and to be in the presidential debates, i have to be in the polls. right now, i have been in three national polls. but in the meantime, there have been another 40 polls where my name has not been in

but so much -- >> were you in favor of bosnia, the intervention there? >> not having been involved in it at the time, i don't want to misspeak, but how about having a skeptic at the table with regard to these military interventions? and yes, if we are going to make a difference, then count on me to step up. but our military interventions -- we have treaties with apparently 69 countries where we're obligated to defend their borders. and these were treaties that were executive treaties, not authorized by congress. >> final question for you. the results come in on election night. you have had an impact. will you be more comfortable if your impact elects a president clinton or a president trump? >> you know, chuck, i would not be doing this if there weren't the opportunity to win. but the only opportunity that i have of winning is to be in the presidential debates and to be in the presidential debates, i have to be in the polls. right now, i have been in three national polls. but in the meantime, there have been another 40 polls where my name has not been in