same principles of the tea party you know another one composed of tea baggers and bachmann supporters the original tea party back in the seventeen hundreds the game changers from boston. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through a bit if you may who can you trust no one who is human view with a global missionary see where we had a state controlled capitalism it's called sasha's when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more. there's pressure mounting on the young people in manhattan many of whom refer to themselves as the ninety nine percent or was there the ninety nine percenters or the ninety nine er's to lay out some clear reasons as to why they're occupying wall street in fact the mainstream media has turned to ridicule in a movement because there isn't a gender or clearly defined goal even though the real reason why the mainstream media is ridiculing the movement is frankly because it doesn't fit within their corporate friendly narrative and should all be talking about later on tonight my daily take but first in case there are still any doubts as to why the ninety nine percent of us should be upset ab

company a massive tax cut yes it was a tax cut that provoked a corporate tax cut to provoke the boston tea party the largest stockholders in that company are members of the royal family and members of parliament the united kingdom was an oligarchy with a monarchy a form of government that had for almost a thousand years we threw them out of our country and built a solid middle class and strong businesses at the core of that little ones until reagan stuck in force in the sherman antitrust act in one thousand nine hundred two and cut the top top tax rate on millionaires and billionaires from seventy four percent of the twenty eight percent the explosion of mergers and acquisitions in the early one nine hundred eighty s. the m. and a mania the so-called reagan revolution was the beginning of the rise of the modern all of our lives in america reagan in perfect reverse robin hood manner and again a systematic looting of both the middle class and the commons all that infrastructure all the people the pieces of our nation we stopped building schools in the reagan era and never picked it up again but we

button word there as justifying the movement first the tea party which of course is you know declined by something much different the boston tea party in the early stages the american founding so. you get a bunch of teen. rode in the water we had to really see how that's so much worse than the idea of occupying it well i'd say that the occupy wall street thing right now it does look a lot like a mob action culture says it looks like i'm up i say yeah but you know it's a it's sort of all mob and no lynch you've got a big mob of. well there the thing that's important to me to distinguish here is that you know these are folks who are out the street not because of the fierce urgency of what should we do right now but what can we do right now and i think that's where it diverges from what was going on conceptually in the can you can process the tea party where people really were taking to the streets she said lead right not. to say what she and we do right now what kind of change change we can write this not much of what you get if you want what wall street and again i think this is reflective of sort of real life conditions am

was to find a movement first the tea party which of course is you know defined by something much different the boston tea party in the early stages the american founding so i acknowledge here i am where you could get if i had seen breath up and throw it in the water i mean i don't really see how that's so much worse than the idea of occupying. well i'd say that the occupy wall street thing right now does look a lot like a mob culture says it looks like i'm not i'd say yeah but you know it's a it's a no lynch you've got a big mob of people there. the thing that's important to me to distinguish here is that you know these are folks throughout the street not because of the fierce urgency of what should we do right now but what can't we do right and i think that's where it diverge a street from what was going on socially and you can process the tea party where you can really we're taking to the streets peaceably deftly on cars not you to say what can we do right now what kind of change we can write this not much of what you want well street and again i think this is reflective of sort of real life condit

button word there as was defining the movement there's the tea party which of course is you know defined by something much different the boston tea party in the early stages the american founding so. now i'm wearing a get a bunch of teen dress up and throw it in the water i mean i don't really see how that's so much worse than the idea of occupying. well i'd say that the occupy wall street thing right now does look a lot like a mob and culture says it looks like a mob i'd say yeah but you know it's a it's sort of all mob and no lynch you've got a big mob of people there the thing that's important to me to distinguish here is that you know these are folks who are out the street not because of the fierce urgency of what can we do right now but what can't we do right now and i think that's where it diverges from from what was going on conceptually and in cross as with the tea party where people really were taking to the streets piece of lead right not deaf can calm cars mind you to say what can we do right now what kind of change political change can accomplish right this moment much of what you get in front of my wall street an

the tea party is incredibly aware of how powerful historical discourse is, which is why they point to a historic moments like the bostonr vague historic enemies light hitler and socialism. in short, i think the results of our collective historical ignorance are profound and that those with political polls on -- goals the left or the right might well invest their resources on accurate discussions of history just as much as impressing for particular public policies. so it is in that context, that feeling about history, that i am excited, despite the fact that i am not a historian about the civil war, to have an opportunity to discuss the lessons of the 19th century for our contemporary political moment. for i want to consider. -- four i want to consider. there is no way i can do justice to all of these. my goal in this portion is to just be a bit provocative about how we might imagine these four aspects of 19th century history impacting our current moment and, hopefully, engage in conversation. i have been told the "q&a" here is often quite robust. [laughter] here are the four points of light to make. -- i would like to

[laughter] the tea party is incredibly aware of how powerful historical discourse is which is why they cherry pick heroic moments like the boston tea party or vague historic enemies like hitler and socialism. in short, i think the results of our collective historical ignorance are profound. those with political goals on the left or the right might well invest their resources in accurate discussions of history just as much as in pressing for a particular public policy. it is in that context, that feeling about history, that i am excited despite the fact that i am not an historian of the civil war, to have an opportunity to discuss some of the lessons of the 19th century for our contemporary political moment. i want to consider four. there is no way i can do justice to all of these. my goal in this portion is to just be a bit provocative about how we might imagine these four aspects of 19th century history impacting our current moment and then hopefully engage in conversation, as i have been told, the q &a here is quite robust. [laughter] here are the four points of light to make. the first is about the continuing structural poli

and the oldest american protest movement, that is the boston tea party. 1773. in british government. >>> next, what should be done with moammar gadhafi's killer? >>> then in about ten minutes, a really cool story about the new nasa satellite. it just launched today. we're going to show you what it's actually going to be tracking. >>> and just before the end of the show, we've got a special treat, nancy grace. got some burning questions about "dancing with the stars." >>> plus, we also want to know what she thinks of the conrad murray trial. >>> moammar gadhafi's fugitive son saif gadhafi is in talks with the international criminal court. he's wanted for crimes against humanity, he wants to surrender to the icc. meanwhile in libya, the question for the new government is who killed gadhafi? and what should be done to the killer. our dan rivers reports from tripoli. >> reporter: ever since these disturbing images emerged on the day gadhafi was killed, questions have loomed about exactly what happened. he was not, in fact, killed in the cross-fire of a gun battle a

to placate again this growing and vibrant movement i cannot say occupy wall street in boston the real tea party according to jason praimnath editor and publisher of open media often thanks so much thank you. and thinking with occupy wall street new york of course the birthplace of this movement but it's not just a movement they're a group of people say they want real change in this country and their demands are starting to even be shown around the world r.c. correspondent on the stasi a church going to take a look at one of the faces in the crowds who's helped to get other faces in the crowd shown on t.v. screens across the globe. i don't know if they had some that say go down during the week and really protest when the bankers are around but you know why this to me lebron james herriot they have now camped out near wall street for over three weeks it's a joke to start a party and they're going to end user trying to have burning man building price goes out accused of being chaotic uneducated teenage things in reality it's the old and the young and those in between who are out on the streets all

the tea party is incredibly aware of how powerful historical discourse is which is why the cherry pick moments like the boston or vague historic enemies like hitler and socialism. in short i think the results of the collective aid parents are profound and those with political goals on the left or the right may well invest their resources in the discussions of history just as much as pressing for particular public policies. so is in that context that feeling about history the time excited despite the fact i'm not a historian of the civil war to have an opportunity to discuss the lessons of the 19th century for our contemporary political moment. fourth among one to consider. and there is no way that i can do justice to all of these. my goal in this portion is to be a bit provocative about how we might imagine these aspects of 19th century history impacting our current moment and hopefully engage in conversation as i've been told the q&a here is often quite robust. [laughter] so here are the four points i would like to make. first is about the continuing structural political and economic legacy of a were unresol

the boston tea party. the tobacco war of the american revolution. the opium wars. alcohol prohibition. the civil war on drugs. where is the road map to peace on drugs? guest: interesting story. the intersection of commerce, morality, social behavior, and the interest to alter one's consciousness. they're never going to end. i do not know the answer. this is one of the reasons that you do this. tell a good enough story so that we ask the questions that you asked. caller: ken burns. guest: good morning. caller: this is such an opportunity and an honor. guest: thank you. caller: it is outstanding. you realize the historical importance of the railroad and how they build a nation. up to world war ii, it enabled us to rise above the depression and succeed in the world war ii. would you consider making a documentary on the historical and importance of the railroads? guest: if i live to be 1000 call would not run out of topics. people come up to me every single day and write letters will my next project should be. the winner is always railroads. we first started getting ma

the boston tea party. the tobacco war of the american revolution. the opium wars. alcohol prohibition. the civil war on drugs. where is the road map to peace on drugs? guest: interesting story. the intersection of commerce, morality, social behavior, and the interest to alter one's consciousness. they're never going to end. i do not know the answer. this is one of the reasons that you do this. tell a good enough story so that we ask the questions that you asked. caller: ken burns. guest: good morning. caller: this is such an opportunity and an honor. guest: thank you. caller: it is outstanding. you realize the historical importance of the railroad and how they build a nation. up to world war ii, it enabled us to rise above the depression and succeed in the world war ii. would you consider making a documentary on the historical and importance of the railroads? guest: if i live to be 1000 call would not run out of topics. people come up to me every single day and write letters will my next project should be. the winner is always railroads. we first started getting ma

it required great courage to do what they did at the boston tea party. it required great courage for the great american henry david they areow to refuse -- thereux to refuse to go to war against mexico in 1849 and that gave birth to the antiwar movement that continues today. the equalities that we as americans enjoy today are the result of those great, courageous americans that fought for our liberties, mr. speaker. the women's suffrage moment -- movement went from 1848 to 18 -- to 190. generations -- 1920. generations of courageous women marched, they fasted and they were arrested. finally, in 1920 the 19th amendment gave women the right to vote. it took more than seven decades of civil disobedience to achieve the change that they sought. let's not forget, mr. speaker, that abolition of slavery, the labor movement and the eradcation of child labor. the civil rights movement and the environmental movement are all -- all used civil disobedience as a powerful and peaceful weapon to change laws and to protect all of our liberties. members of the movement no

the boston tea party. the tobacco war of the american revolution. the opium wars. alcohol prohibition. the civil war on drugs. where is the road map to peace on drugs? guest: interesting story. the intersection of commerce, morality, social behavior, and the interest to alter one's consciousness. they're never going to end. i do not know the answer. this is one of the reasons that you do this. tell a good enough story so that we ask the questions that you asked. caller: ken burns. guest: good morning. caller: this is such an opportunity and an honor. guest: thank you. caller: it is outstanding. you realize the historical importance of the railroad and how they build a nation. up to world war ii, it enabled us to rise above the depression and succeed in the world war ii. would you consider making a documentary on the historical and importance of the railroads? guest: if i live to be 1000 call would not run out of topics. people come up to me every single day and write letters will my next project should be. the winner is always railroads. we first started getting ma

to the early days of the tea party, at least when i do, it's to show that the tea party remember wearing paul re veer costumes and they were dressing as the patriots who in boston threw the tea into the sea off the british merchant ships. look at these crazy people with the tri corner hat and all the rest of it i think that's where the analogy is that was easy to mock the tea party in those early days. these occupy wall street people very easy to mock. but the tea party became a social movement and they may also. >> bill: moral equivalency is being drawn and being drawn in papers like the "new york times," on nbc news. but they are really doing the same thing. tea party doesn't have mass protests and mass arrests. they are not tearing the system down. if these wall street cooks -- kooks had their way we would be spain, greece, that's the kind of smg they want. you know that. >> socialism is not going to get us out of our problems now, bill. you have to admit there is enormous frustration in the country right now. people are feeling very needy. there is a sense that the people who got us into this mess, the bankers have gotten off scot-free. that's where this re

boston where the occupation there may be the most heated in america. remember, they do have the bona fide history of paul revere and the original tea party, inspiring all those college kids in boston from harvard to m.i.t. to umbc. as a result, police in boston cracking down, arresting 129 on what they call the green necklace, which is a park running off the river up there in boston. how long will these protests go and will they focus on an agenda that is a consolidated agenda to restore fairness? beyond that, can they move beyond the heroes and villains to look at the actual system that we are working inside of for a given tycoon or a given hero will not either bring this system down nor will he or she save it. it is only our collective action to form a system that is rewarding this behavior that gives us any chance of harvesting this anger for positive change. to that end, with us today, our specialist, oregon congressman, kurt sclhrader, who's introduce his own amendment to get money out of politics. it's a pleasure to meet you, sir. >> thank you, dylan. likewise. >> the logic, as i read through your amendment, one question that struck me was, it ap

there's a big difference between occupy wall street, occupy washington, occupy boston than the tea partyr instance. when was the last time 700 people got arrested at a tea party rally? >> they said they were trapped to blocking the bridge. >> now they want to sue the police. good luck on that. >> let's do some headlines for you now. begin with a man hunt for a mass murderer in montana. f.b.i. agents searching for this man, 22-year-old sheldon bernard chase accused of shooting three victims on an indian reservation. they were shot with a high powered rifle. chase has a history of mental illness and is considered both armed and dangerous. >> a brand new terror scare in the air as well. it happened on the same flight targeted by the crotch bomber. an unruly passenger causing quite the scare on board that same delta flight from amsterdam to detroit. this guy was reportedly shouting about terrorism and hijacking. one passenger sitting next to him claims there were three air marshalls on board who jumped up and took over. >> like a possessed person, you know, when they keep going on and on and

so many people have tried to draw comparisons between the tea party and also occupy wallstreet and occupy bostonmber when the tea party was accused of being a nazi-ish or racist? what is interesting now the american nazi party and the communist party have actually come out and endorsed this particular occupation. for instance, the american nazi party wishes officially endorsed them, they referred to a book written by hitler as the ideal logical blueprint for healthy survival. that group is supporting occupy wall street. so is the communist party usa. in fact, a spokesperson for the communist party addressed the group this past saturday. >> and so let's hear from one of those people. you may not hear this anywhere else. this is actually a teacher out in california, patricia mcallister. here's what she thinks should happen to our country. >> i'm here representing myself but i do work for the los angeles unified school district. and i think the jews who are running these big banks and our federal reserve wishes is not run by the federal government, they need to be run out of this country. >> you kn

tea party. >> i ran across two of the protests, one in washington, d.c., and one in boston. d they have nothing in common at all with the protests that were being put forward -- or the demonstrations, you might say, that were put forward by the tea party. >> you provide hope instead of what this president has done, which in many respects is, you could argue, has incited this with the class warfare rhetoric. >> well, in boston, police arrested 129 people who refused to leave a newly renovated park. this morning, occupy wall street protesters in new york will hold a millionaires march, walking past the homes of some of the big apple's wealthiest. joining me now is john carlos, an iconic figure from the civil rights movement, when he did the black power salute on the medal stand in the 1968 olympics, inciting a controversy that would change his life. his new book is "the john carlos story." it's good to have you here. thank you so much. >> i'm honored to be here. >> you were down there last night with the occupy wall street folks, and you said "i am you." what did you mean by th

tea party they're kind of. they're a vestige of an older time they're hanging on to kind of. a habit of boston. right. because that's what that's kind of. the sort of spin that i was through so there's no you know they knew the crowd to have a lot of hackers with them so make sure that they would be able to understand you know the internet and kind of these tea party. so you're saying this is about their knowledge of search analytics by some kind of tricky way they know how to market themselves well there are the guys in the tea party look they've got lawn chairs and plastic cups and suns obamacare but the guys like my wall street they're like the tech savvy guys i'm like that movie with i don't know i love how you're sitting here characterizing tea partiers and occupy wall street protesters when earlier you were bagging on people for doing that but we won't bring you anything to add. not really i'm pretty much let's let's move on. let's move on because there was a story in the financial times that we got talking about earlier today because it was talking about relationships when personnel get persona

boston, just to name a few. now, of course, it's being compared loosely to the tea party's beginnings more than two years ago. i was a tea partier at its beginning, on the belief that a principled group would confront a bought government by the banking system. that never happened. i also thought barack obama was going to do that. that didn't happen either. this, for me, is the third possibility to intervene in the unholy alliance between business and state and carl denninger, one of the original tea party voices, writes on marketticker.org, "if the so-called tea party is going to mean anything at all, then it has to get in the middle of this debate and protest movement right now and amplify the voice that represents common ground." karl joins us now live from florida. karl, what do you think that common ground is? >> i think the really bottom line here is we have to look towards not just the corruption in the electoral process that comes from all of the money that's there, but that among the process that has nothing to do with elections. let's look at hank paulson. he runs goldman sachs. he goes to the govern

tea party rallies have been arrested? i don't think any. add up another 100 last night in bostont gear apparently what happened and they clashed with the police. what was happening there is they were -- the protesters were warned to move from dewey square, they had been in dewey square and it spilled over into the rose kennedy greenway and they recently planted a whole bunch of -- $150,000 worth of shrubs and they were worried about damage so they said you got to get off the greenway. they didn't so you can see there were 100 arrests and a cop got punched. another big difference between the tea party and occupy, in this case, boston. >> same time, though, you have some democrats who are coming on board and supporting the protests but you have one prominent democrat, the former governor of pennsylvania, ed rendell who is saying it's time for these protesters to go home, they've made their point and now it's time to go home. he visited with laura ingraham on her radio show yesterday and said this. >> you've made your point. you've gotten all the publicity you're going to get. get o

tea party. love to see that. >> you know what? we've heard a lot of people on the left try to make comparisons between the tea party and occupy wall street, occupy bostonn yesterday. but, you know, what's going on in lower manhattan, you're absolutely right, there are a lot of people who are frustrated. you know, you read the papers, there are a lot of people doing drugs down there. they're defecating on police cars. they're having sex. they're getting arrested. during tea party rallies, nobody ever got arrested! i think the arrest total so far is -- >> come on now, you don't want to get fact checked on that, do you? >> sure! >> no one at the tea party rally anywhere in the country has ever been arrested. >> have 1,000 people been arrested, ma'am? >> there are tens of thousands of people who have been part of the occupy wall street protests. and there are always a handful of people who, you know, are really not going to -- >> you're not -- >> follow the program. >> tea party -- >> no, do you think that president obama's assessment about millionaires and billionaires created the situation of these protests? >> no, i think republican policies that focus

boston be able to stay out of jail? because you better believe it. if anyone can take the tea partyhe way back, it will be those rowdies up in beantown. after this, away from the occupation, what are iran's ties to the foiled terror plot? what do we actually know, and how much of this is a spillover from a cold war between iran and saudi arabia? a live interview with the former head of the cia, james woolsey, right after this. to share... to volunteer. and now, thanks to you, 10 communities have more to smile about. what's next? tell us on facebook. i took some steep risks in my teens. i'd never ride without one now. and since my doctor prescribed lipitor, i won't go without it for my high cholesterol and my risk of heart attack. why kid myself? diet and exercise weren't lowering my cholesterol enough. now i'm eating healthier, exercising more, taking lipitor. numbers don't lie. my cholesterol's stayed down. lipitor is fda approved to reduce the risk of heart attack and stroke in patients who have heart disease or risk factors for heart disease. it's backed by over 19 years of resea

boston. they have nothing in common with the protest that were being put forward or the demonstrations you might say that were put forward by the tea party. >> we ought to be pitting americans against americans. >> i. to work hard enough to not buy a cadillac and not take someone else's. >> they're defended the movement and supporteded the tea party. this is a contributor with the daily beaft. you were alive with us last week. the republicans are coming out and slamming some republicans for the protests. the democrats don't quite know how to take advantage of this movement as a republican tea party. >> with the tea party, it was much more clear what side of the political spectrum when push comes to shove. they were almost entirely and the problem with the wall street protests from a political perspective and there not clear goals. all be it intensely passionate movements. if you are a democratic party strategist, it's not clear where the votes go. >> wouldn't it be clear if you lined up the clips we have pointed out. to me it was an advantage for the democrats when you have several presidential candidates saying that this is nonsense or

boston. so but it really it seems like it's picking up. people it's getting into people's heads in a way you know i hate i don't want to compare it to the tea party but the same way that this that seemed to spread and get inside people's you know people were thinking about it this really seems to be thought of catching on in in i hate to say that collective unconscious because that sounds but ever but it really i know you couldn't do any you can go all young guys are there. and i actually agree with you sarah thank you so much for being asked that i care thank you for having me more and more people are now paying attention to what's going on in new york city and elsewhere and the attention is only going to grow as thousands of fresh new demonstrators are expected to join the ranks of occupy wall street thanks to influential labor unions and progressive organizations that pledged their support for the cause and are expected to dispatch members to the demonstrations this week for more on how we can take advantage of this body and youth acted activism and this moment in time and parlay it into real change i'm joined by jim dean chair of democracy fo

and one in boston, and they have nothing in common at all with the protests that were being put forward or the demonstrations you might say that were put forward by the tea party. i think that if the occupy wall street wants to be upset about something, they should go in front of the white house and that's where they should be protesting. >> charles blow joins us from new york. thanks for joining us today. >> absolutely. >> first off, i want to say a little of mitt romney just today, speaking to the occupy wall street protests. this was romney in milford, new hampshire. >> the idea of dividing our nation in a time of crisis is not the way to go. all the streets are kekd. wall street is connected to main street. finding someone to blame in my opinion isn't the way to go. >> i guess, charles, first of all, are the republicans as well as the white house having a difficult time trying to figure out how to deal with this protest? >> everyone is having a difficult time trying to figure out how to deal with this because occupy wall street kind of exists outside the framework of politics at this point, and you know, no one knows if anyone will be able to -- the left s

boston tv. they know mitt romney. ahead in all of the subsets, including tea party activists and born-again christians. >> interesting.. romney's lead not so impressive in those states. >> pretty much a dead heat. iowa, the caucus on january 3rd will lead off the primary caucus calendar. romney, 24% support among republicans. cain 21%. everybody else lower. three-point advantage of romney within the sampling error. what's going on in iowa? romney getting more mainstream establishment vote. cain, paul, gingrich, and the rest, dividing the social conservative voters, born-again christians and tea party activists. same story in south carolina. they vote on january 21st, first southern state to have a primary or caucus. romney and cain dead even at the top. of everybody else a little lower. same story in south carolina, carol. >> the caveat still, most gop voters have not made up their mind. no one candidate has really strong support, right? >> exactly. that's why things can change. we valts over two months until voting begins. check out the numbers. we ask, are you firmly with your candidate, 100% not going to change you

spreading to boston, to san francisco, this is something that can be the creation of a movement that we need in this country to basically readdress what's going on here and basically go after the tea party. >> mr. hoffa, there's been all kinds of descriptions from the right wing. i want you to see this. this is paul brown describing the protests today. >> i see people angry in my district, too but this attack upon business, attack upon industry, attack upon freedom and i think that's what this is all about. >> what's your reaction to that, mr. hoffa. >> that is typical tea party language that basically, you know, they can send our jobs overseas. they can horde money. they can lay off americans and that's okay, but if you say anything about it. if you protest, if you get on television, if you show you are angry, there's something wrong with that. this guy's got the wrong idea of what america is. america is to go out and talk about what is good for the middle class and the people that are really hurting ou it there. and basically this is the beginning. >> herman cain says it is un-american. herman cain says the protesters are un-american. >> there's nothing more american than the type of

boston. i am a republican. how was an original member of the ron paul revolution that started that tea party.y find it's so ironic that the hypocrisy is not being shown, because of the george soros, just like and jonah is saying, it is being coopted by at least one-third of them down there. the racism down there, one black woman calling the anti-semite stuff, you will not see that on the mainstream news and it goes on and on. i agree that the corruption and greed is taking over, and that is what the whole thing stems back to pre the honest, true people down there, they want to get the corruption and the corporatism and all that out of politics. host: john and kohlberg, final thoughts. guest: i agree with a caller. i would be very frustrated down amidst all that. to try to be in again niter, not a divider, -- a uniter, not a divider, it is what you want to do with the anger. the solutions that i have seen, to the extent that there are any solution, they seem to be meticulous about having no demands. one sign saying that they want unspecified sweeping change right now. specify the change and th

boston. i am a republican. how was an original member of the ron paul revolution that started that tea party.they find it's so ironic that the hypocrisy is not being shown, because of the george soros, just like and jonah is saying, it is being coopted by at least one-third of them down there. the racism down there, one black woman calling the anti- semite stuff, you will not see that on the mainstream news and it goes on and on. i agree that the corruption and greed is taking over, and that is what the whole thing stems back to pre the honest, true people down there, they want to get the corruption and the corporatism and all that out of politics. host: john and kohlberg, final finalnah goldberg, g thoughts. guest: i agree with a caller. i would be very frustrated down amidst all that. to try to be in again niter, not a divider, -- a uniter, not a divider, it is what you want to do with the anger. the solutions that i have seen, to the extent that there are any solution, they seem to be meticulous about having no demands. one sign saying that they want unspecified sweeping change right now.

tea party movement. it has spread to new orleans, los angeles, boston. the d.c. occupation is nothing new.hey have been occupying the health-care system, the financial sector, the supreme court. they have basically been occupying every aspect of our lives, so i bring a message today. the d.c. occupation ends next november. [applause] did any of you in your spare time watched the president's press conference yesterday? how many of you? four. you have now lives, like me. he said that the protesters represent the broader concern in the nation over the economy. after spending some time data protests, i will tell you that these protests do not represent the broader concerns of their college dormitories let alone the nation. remember a few years back when the former, former come up former house speaker nancy pelosi -- that is not fair, you astro-turfers. now she has called down god's blessing on the occupiers. the tea party people who clean after themselves at a rally ended not leave behind trash, knew how to use a port anajohn, but this crowd is doing something that obama did not do in wall str

boston. i am a republican, and i was an original member of the ron paul revolution that started the tea party in 2007. i find it so ironic that the hypocrisy is not being shown because it is the george soros, the mdia matters, being co-opted by at leats a third down there. the racism -- the black woman calling about the anti-semitic stuff. i agree that corruption and the greed has taken over. that is what the whole thing has come down to. the honest people that are down there -- they want to get the corruption and the corporatism out of politics. guest: i agree with the caller. again, i will try to be a uniter. i think there is legitimate anchor on all sides of the spectrum, but it is what you want to do with the anger. the solutions that are being proposed -- oen sign says "we demand bold swee -- demand unspecified sweeping change right now." specify the sweeping change because otherwise it is not that productive. host: thank you for talking to

tea party rally there. going back to october 7th, 4 days ago, there were 723 arrests in manhattan. and there were 100 people arrested late last night in boston. now, where do you find the lawlessness here? >> these guys cross a bridge, they stepped out on to a bridge and i think the police overreacted. they locked up 700 people. >> come on, bob! >> they didn't get charged with anything, as usual, and republicans make hay out of this. i happened to be at woodstock, it was a nice event, it was wet but nice, a lot of drugs and things, but nonetheless, maybe not mainstream america, but the point is there's frustration out there and i don't think the average american gives -- much cares about who's protesting where. and -- >> bill: so you open your arms to them. >> absolutely. bill: is that a good strategy? >> it's not a good strategy because there's no message. look, democrats like bob and democrats who are in office are now forced to either embrace them, stupidly o. or defend them. do they really want this to be their message, defending these people down at wall street and elsewhere? >> going into an election year? and what's so bad, bob, about