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so they are beautiful, they are sexy, they tell us they like that but how come the botany? so i get that. i could understand that anger and i feel that they feel a resentment -- >> host: but it's two things that struck me, one is you read it and what he's saying them incorrectly but you see his logic i'm doing everything i need to do to be a man and it's not working. it's all superficial. he's saying i'm wearing this, i am working out, i'm doing all these things and it's utterly failing. >> guest: i'm doing these things that you would then -- >> host: it's like the chevrolet commercial i quoted in my book that ran in the super bowl one year where you have these men that say i picked up your laundry, i felt your lipstick. it's like the men are completely frozen. like you've done all this to me. >> guest: and i get to drive a car. >> host: but the other thing -- >> guest: to let you know how i know the commercial didn't necessarily work on you because it was a dodge challenger. >> host: my mom had a dodge challenger. the other thing -- were supposed to get over that. my husba

one of the classes she talks about is botany classes. she likes going outdoors. she refers to ms. palmer. she says they were a good match for climbing. we beat the others all to pieces. they found lots of flowers, lupins, primroses -- as a part of the class, they were also drawing flowers. there are flowers and butterflies. different kinds of things. you have the latin name, as well. that is what she would have been learning. she does not write about herself, necessarily. she writes about her experiences in life and she is a highly educated woman. her parents created -- both her mom and dad created an open environment and encouraged her to do things. she was able to do that and she explore that as well as she could. >> we were commenting, as we are watching the photographs, of how full of life she is an day comes through in these photographs years later. her decision to study geology, she was one of the first women to earn a degree in geology. a 'rocky' path. >> it was very unusual. you're not 100% sure but we may be she may have been the first woman to get a degree in geology. on