involves the acquisition of foreign technology as well as a greater civil-military integration and bothelments have the potential to decrease development costs and accelerate military modernization. i made that in my opening comments. there's no question that we understand going in that what we're doing here, the chinese regardless of what they say, are going to be utilizing this to accelerate their military development. is that correct? mr. countryman: there's no doubt that china will make every attempt to benefit from technology transfer, whether in the economic commercial or military field. our job, which only begins with this 1-2-3 agreement but is actually carried out through the licensing procedure is to frustrate that effort. we have every intention of doing so and believe we have the means to do so. mr. corker: now that we've established that, that this is going to happen, i wanted to -- you mentioned that our involvement with them would you know, help cause proliferation not to occur. i'd like to ask a question. are they organically interested, as a nation, forget that in the -- in do