to wear bothve hats.t is frustrating for a producer or director to be tortured in that way by the process. how is an artist navigating that journey? that is why artists drive everyone crazy. artist don't take about that stuff. that's why you hear me talk about it, and it is hard for me to get at it. you know what i am saying, but as an artist myself, you don't think about that stuff. you see what you want to do, and why aren't they helping me? you know what i mean? >> yes. they have that kind of -- it would be more of a torturous thing for them that way i feel, because they are the ones that might -- we don't want this to happen, but they are the ones who might throw in the towel. you don't want the artist going in the towel, but they want what they need to make what they have to make the cuts the desire to have to make it is so strong, because that is the kind of art -- artist they are obsessed with actually putting their creation out to the world, and they want some help doing that. a lot of friends hav