universal health care while joe biden focused his fire on a trump administration generally accusing it of botley mishandling they punt anik. happy to say we're joined live now on the program with professor james lark jane's represents the libertarian party. good to have you good to see you as well just on your take on the debates bernie sanders seemed to be making an impassioned case throughout for medicare for all professor to what extent has this break demonstrated the need for universal health care. well in my opinion it hasn't demonstrated the need for government health care it has pointed out of course that when you have a situation such as this in many cases the any sort of any sort of health care system whether governmentally provided or privately provided can have some difficulties the problem of course is in a free society you do run the risk people with their their contact of spreading a disease like this i don't think that senator sanders arguments are particularly strong in suggesting that this is particularly relevant for a government health care system as opposed to some other sort