botnet, all different kinds of malware can be used to extract information. >> there's speculation thatames franco and seth rogen movie that somewhat ridiculously has them as leaders in a plot to assassinate the leader of north korea, it's said they got north korean hackers to attack them. the fbi is suggesting this might not be the case, and is a broader phishing expedition. should the world be afraid of seth rog is really the question hereen. -- afraid of seth rogen is really the question herein. [laughter] >> it makes a good story that there is a movie coming out, so north korea is doing it. not a lot of specific information is tied to that. generally speaking, all companies are being targeted. anyone with viable information, sensitive information, cardholder information, all the breaches we have seen, make most large companies very lucrative targets for attackers. so it's not unreasonable to think it would go beyond sony. >> chris eng, thank you very much. coming up, sting speaks out, the latest to weigh in against spotify. the new threat to the music industry, next. watch this stre

companies -- someone boosting their career by going to a third-party site, getting all of these fake botnetd saying i got my numbers up by 50%. i want my bonus, i want to do my ipo and move to a company with a better office because of these short time bogus results. >> when you rob the bank, some eventually notices the bank account balance at zero. when you rob advertisers, a numbers people get going up and it's rewarded. it is a perverse incentive and it's exactly like you described. >> thank you very much. >> i can't be excited about all of these on our bloomberg videos? >> i do think this may emerge as one of the guest fakes of this era of technology and could be a real problem for a lot of companies whose numbers proved to be fake. >> it's time now for the bwest byte. what do you have for us? --speaking of fake numbers 250 or 242. when elon musk announced the dual motor tesla model s, he said it would have a range of 275 miles, better than the current model. in a few weeks later, they actually increase the estimate to 285 miles. at the epa that with a real numbers today and it turns out

if you want to buy an atm tommer or start up a botnet start spamming but you don't know how, get on somee forums and they will teach you this stuff. that's what i did in the middle of the last decade. i tried to establish a presence on all of these different criminal forums and then lurk and try to understand how this weird ecosystem works. reach out thei people and say if i were inches to do this, where would i go? if i were looking for that, who would i talk to? who are the most trustworthy people? that's what those forums are all about, connecting people who have disparate resources and interests and put together people in a way that creates an enterprise. >> how do you protect yourself? communitiesthese and i am just lurking. i am not trying to be somebody i am not. >> if they knew it was you, wouldn't they stop talking? >> i normally don't register under my own name. i don't spend a lot of time reaching out to these guys and pretending to be somebody else. there is a lot you can learn and glean just from being on these communities and seeing what people are talking about. in the few

we have things called botnets. like when people's computers are infected with malicious software and then it grows into an army of computers that some bad guys could basically take out internet connections. this wouldn't be the work of a nation state. this is kind of the work of amateur hackers. and -- or if north korea was not behind the attack, which i'm very skeptical they're the ones that carried out the attack on sony, it could be the guys that attacked sony now attacking korea, north korea to actually escalate the conflict. that's a possibility. >> you're saying you don't believe north korea was behind what happened to sony despite the fbi, et cetera? >> i'm not sure. >> got ya. >> i'm not sure, there were conclusionary statements. the evidence that the fbi had put out there was kind of vague and other hackers could've done the same thing. so i hope that the government is transparent, and i believe congress has already asked the fbi to be transparent and release the evidence that really shows that north korea