botnet -- someone using that botnet, effective jamming the sides, but we do not know who.some say the north koreans are responsible. the experts say is very hard to identify any perpetrator. the united states faces more and more of these attacks. >> every day, we see waves of cyber thieves trolley for sensitive information, -- trolling for sensitive information. industrial spies, disgruntled employees. >> these attacks of all but against public websites. the u.s. government says it's secure computer networks have not been penetrated. it was said that this was almost like a riot on the internet, with virtual bricks thrown through the windows, but we do not know what point they are trying to make. bbc news, washington. >> still to come for you on "bbc world news," pay a high price for the wet stuff. -- paying a high price. first, and retire el general talking about the indonesian economy and tackle corruption. he looks set for a second term. we have an report now on what is only the second fully democratic election in indonesia. >> after tallying up the votes at 2000 polling

they call them botnets. this was a botnet of tens of thousands of computers used for the attack but the fellow who did it, one or two people, one computer. >> guest: one thing i have heard is the code itself is not very sophisticated. it is a well-known and older version of it will not cut. is your sense that the people, whoever decided to do this wasn't being that imaginative or was not really that good? >> guest: i have mixed feelings because the code was eight revis code. probably got it off of a cybercrime web site. you can buy this stuff. some have rankings, like the seller has sold successfully ten times in the past but the attack is the most primitive kind of attack. there were some sophisticated parts to it. eight caymen three waives. they adjusted the target for each way. so it wasn't somebody who was a dope. let first i thought basic attack, a kid could do it and now looking at it there must have been some brains behind it. guess could you make anything of these recent reports out of south korea th

. >> this attacked is at botnet -- this attack is a botnet attack. tens of thousands of machines.hitting the government websites with a lot of requests, a to 100,000 internet requests per second, overloading -- up to 100,000 internet requests per second. that helps you visualize the problem here. greta: is this a nuisance, an incredible nuisance, or is this truly destructive? it has harmed our national security? >> it is more in the graffiti school of cyber attacks, someone trying to paint nasty messages, break some windows. it is more of a political statement. to my knowledge, no data taken out and taken back some or else, just really annoying behavior and actions to send a message from the web response circuit. greta: -- actions to send a message from whoever sent it. >> legitimate party is coming in from outside or having a hard time getting in. they're all of those false messages. u.s. national assets. so, yes, in korea, there may have been some of the same experiences. greta: why would the pentagon think that it is north korea? >> if they could find who wrote the check to get

so this was a botnet of thence of thousands of computers used for the attack, but the fellow who did it, one or two people, one computer, you know? >> guest: i've heard the code itself isn't sophisticated, it's actually a well known and an older version of a well known code. whoever decided to do this wasn't being all that imaginative or wasn't even that good? >> guest: you know, i have mixed feelings because the code was, as you say, sort of a reused code, probably got it off a cyber crime web site. you can buy the stuff. some of them have rankings, you know, like this seller has sold successfully ten times in the past, but the attack is the most primitive kind of attack, but there were some sophisticated parts to it. it came in three waves, they adjusted the target set for each wave, they changed the zombie computers they were using, so it wasn't somebody who was a dope, right? first i thought, basic attack, kid could do it. and now looking at it, there must have been some brains behind it. >> host: do you make any anything out of these reports out of south korea that therapy hard